Confirmed working Scalers/Scan Converters/ETC with X68000

Started by incrediblehark, July 30, 2021, 04:09:53 PM

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incrediblehark

I know the Micomsoft XPC-4 is the go to solution for displaying the X68000 on modern displays, but what other devices are known to be working? OSSC can work but can be very hit or miss depending on your tv/monitor. What about GBS-Control? It would be helpful to start a maintained list of these. If one already exists please let me know!

Jehuty

I am using OSSC. I thing its one of the best.
Using it with X68000, FM Towns, Amiga and a lot of Consoles.
But you have to spend some time to configure it to your display.

My GBS Control doesn´t work with X68000, don´t know why

dankcomputing

The Framemeister will work, but it can be cranky in some modes. It's been a while since I've had it hooked up though.

incrediblehark

Thanks for the info so far! I am able to get ossc to work on 2 out of 3 displays I've tried using some tweaking. No luck with my hdcrt though... if anyone has suggestions for settings I'd be interested.

I can get a picture if I go ossc (all resolutions 2x) to extron vsc-700 but the picture is interlaced, and starts to become too many devices connected. But it is a lower cost solution for people interested.

htdreams

I would like to say that an alternative to the OSSC is the GBSControl, it involves some tinkering but is probably about half the price of the OSSC, I've done two, one for my X68000 and other for my Amiga 1200, to hook them to 20" vga triniton monitors (they look crisp and beautifull) and works for 15kz, 24kz and 30kz resolutions :-)

https://www.retrorgb.com/gbs-control-installation-overview.html


incrediblehark


Cyothevile

I would also be interested in getting GSBControl working.

I built it properly but if my memory serves it wouldn't display the FMT IPL screen which is 24khz. I didn't test any further

I didn't test for X68000 yet.

leonk

GBS-Control does not work. The problem is not a hardware issue but software.  I used my oscilloscope and calculated the correct values for RGBHV resistors to get the correct Vpp values. GBS-Control gets confused by the X68000 res.

The best solution that works for me is OSSC -> HDMI2VGA adapter -> old computer screen.

X-Col

Quote from: leonk on August 17, 2021, 03:45:35 AMGBS-Control does not work. The problem is not a hardware issue but software.  I used my oscilloscope and calculated the correct values for RGBHV resistors to get the correct Vpp values. GBS-Control gets confused by the X68000 res.

My GBS-Control works fine on my XVI Compact, but the screen has flickering dots @15Hz on my ACE HD

incrediblehark

Does anyone here know about the Medusa?

https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=357

There's a lot of old computer resolutions supported, wonder if X68000 would work? If anyone has used this I'd be interested to hear about it.

amazin

I'm using the OSSC with my XVI Compact, and it works great. I still need to do some cleanup and do some fine tuning, but it displays all modes, all resolutions, no complaints whatsoever.

incrediblehark

Can also confirm that X68K and OSSC works with the Sony A80J and looks amazing! If anyone needs help with settings in this particular combination let me know. Would love it if a 4:3 version of this oled existed...

armitage

Could not get GBS-Control running latest firmware as of this post to work with my SUPER. In the debug console it throws an error about "unrecognized source format", defaults to pass through, and my display shuts off.

I had very good luck with OSSC. It took a little tweaking but looks great on my Dell 2007FPb. Just had to switch it to DVI mode because HDMI audio causes the monitor to go to sleep.

repoMan

If you're the lucky owner of a Dell P2314H you'll never need an scaler again.

It's the first modern screen I've seen capable of syncing correctly the X68K freqs, displaying all the vertical resolution of the screen without loosing a single line. The image quality is also top notch.

I'm absolutely satisfied now, at least having successfully tested some tricky software.

Does anyone knows a good testbed to be sure is working with 100% of the software?

tsmvp

Quote from: armitage on March 11, 2023, 02:33:53 PMCould not get GBS-Control running latest firmware as of this post to work with my SUPER. In the debug console it throws an error about "unrecognized source format", defaults to pass through, and my display shuts off.

I had very good luck with OSSC. It took a little tweaking but looks great on my Dell 2007FPb. Just had to switch it to DVI mode because HDMI audio causes the monitor to go to sleep.

Mind sharing what settings you have on the OSSC? Oddly enough, my GBS-Control has zero issues with the X68000 Compact I have but the OSSC cuts off the bottom of the screen, so maybe there is some setting I am missing. That said I remember reading somewhere that some sort of software patch on the X68000 OS would fix that but not sure if that is accurate. Thanks!

HIggy

Quote from: repoMan on March 16, 2023, 11:55:40 PMIf you're the lucky owner of a Dell P2314H you'll never need an scaler again.

It's the first modern screen I've seen capable of syncing correctly the X68K freqs, displaying all the vertical resolution of the screen without loosing a single line. The image quality is also top notch.

I'm absolutely satisfied now, at least having successfully tested some tricky software.

Does anyone knows a good testbed to be sure is working with 100% of the software?

I just got the Dell P2214Hb Rev 06 and that is also working great with 15Khz and 31Khz.
I did the trick of changing the background purple (any colour apart from black) in Switch.X and then 'auto adjust' fits the screen perfectly.

armitage

Quote from: tsmvp on March 17, 2023, 12:37:32 AM
Quote from: armitage on March 11, 2023, 02:33:53 PMCould not get GBS-Control running latest firmware as of this post to work with my SUPER. In the debug console it throws an error about "unrecognized source format", defaults to pass through, and my display shuts off.

I had very good luck with OSSC. It took a little tweaking but looks great on my Dell 2007FPb. Just had to switch it to DVI mode because HDMI audio causes the monitor to go to sleep.

Mind sharing what settings you have on the OSSC? Oddly enough, my GBS-Control has zero issues with the X68000 Compact I have but the OSSC cuts off the bottom of the screen, so maybe there is some setting I am missing. That said I remember reading somewhere that some sort of software patch on the X68000 OS would fix that but not sure if that is accurate. Thanks!

I used the settings in the last post of this thread (#7) as a baseline and then made a few minor adjustments for my display: https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=6622.0

flag26838

Quote from: incrediblehark on October 21, 2022, 10:24:07 AMDoes anyone here know about the Medusa?

https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=357

There's a lot of old computer resolutions supported, wonder if X68000 would work? If anyone has used this I'd be interested to hear about it.

I was eyeing the Medusa too, did you take the plunge?

incrediblehark

Not yet, but it supports a lot of older PCs so I am really tempted. Would like to see how it compares to the XPC-4.