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Started by incrediblehark, June 16, 2023, 01:30:45 PM

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Would you like the next release to be sorted by genre instead of alphabetically?

Yes
9 (69.2%)
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4 (30.8%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: September 27, 2023, 12:33:41 AM

incrediblehark

Quote from: aotta on March 07, 2024, 08:36:47 AMI continue suggest you to add more SCSI volumes as told in some previous post, not sure if it works with scsi machines but it would be great for SASI ones! ;)

I've been thinking about this lately, a good way to add another drive as SCSI ID 1 or something similar, but wonder how to manage that while still keeping a good compatibility among multiple machines and scsi devices.

darkwitchclaire

Is there a way to view the games partition in DiskExplorer? I can view the other partition fine but when I select the second one it gives an error.

rezb1t

Quote from: darkwitchclaire on March 18, 2024, 01:36:08 PMIs there a way to view the games partition in DiskExplorer? I can view the other partition fine but when I select the second one it gives an error.
Yes, incrediblehark made a guide on how to do that, you can find it here:

https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=7333.0

spectreman

Quote from: incrediblehark on June 18, 2023, 05:13:17 AMHey thanks for the feedback, and glad it's working well for you so far! Let me know if you come across any issues.

Hi, thank you for the excellent work done.
I wanted to let you know that Super Hang-On won't start.
When the 128 seconds of waiting are over, the countdown starts again infinitely.
I tried removing all other games, it runs normally.
I'm guessing it's a file conflict.
I didn't add any other games to the disc image.

I also tried Bonaza bros. , works fine booting my X68000 XVI at 16MHz but at 10MHz it won't boot.

Tests carried out on the X68000 XVI, 12MB RAM (TSR brand) on HENKAN BANCHO PRO.

incrediblehark

Thank you for reporting the issue, another user had a similar issue before and I thought I had fixed it, so I'll look into it again before the next release.

v2.20 will be soon, finishing up my midi testing and adding more doujin games from the recently released pack. Took some time off to work on the retrotink modes for x68k so I'll be back to the hdd image this week.

HIggy

@incrediblehark I watched a YouTube video featuring the HD image, it sounds like they have been in contact regarding the Music player and MIDI files.
I know when I tested it I could not 'see' the .MID files, so it is good that the reason has been found and being looked to be fixed.

Sometimes it is difficult to know if it is 'user error' or fundamentally there is something not setup quite right. It's nice they kept persevering and came up with an answer.

incrediblehark

#166
@HIggy yes that's right, there's another thread on here where some discussion was made about the midi playback issues, i appreciate the help in solving the problem as I hadn't spent a lot of time setting up MMDSP, focusing more on games, and these issues motivated me to fix it for the future release.

Now I have a script set up to load the driver you need based on what file type you would like to playback. In my v2.20 you can use mcdrv or rcd to playback .mid files but mcdrv seems to process the file faster.

I also just wanted to add it's pretty cool to hear about a video made about the hd image!


armitage

Quote from: incrediblehark on April 13, 2024, 02:13:41 AM@HIggy yes that's right, there's another thread on here where some discussion was made about the midi playback issues, i appreciate the help in solving the problem as I hadn't spent a lot of time setting up MMDSP, focusing more on games, and these issues motivated me to fix it for the future release.

Now I have a script set up to load the driver you need based on what file type you would like to playback. In my v2.20 you can use mcdrv or rcd to playback .mid files but mcdrv seems to process the file faster.

I also just wanted to add it's pretty cool to hear about a video made about the hd image!



Thanks for all your hard work on the image!

For those who are just hearing about this new image for the first time, the video in question is here:

ateam

Quote from: armitage on April 13, 2024, 03:07:50 AMThanks for all your hard work on the image!

For those who are just hearing about this new image for the first time, the video in question is here:
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Thanks for sharing! This is a great video covering this excellent HDD image.

owen2471

@incrediblehark Hello. I would like to use your image on my X68000z is this possible ?

Thank you

incrediblehark

Hi! I do not own an x68000z mini but there is some talk of getting it to work on another forum. Here is a link discussing the Z mini using an hds image via USB:

https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/sharp-x68000-z-a-decent-alternative.1244932/

Page 2-3 go into how to set up an hds file to use on the z. I don't own one so I can't say for sure what does and doesn't work, but I plan to import one at some point soon and do some testing myself.





owen2471

That's brilliant. Thank you I will take a look.

owen2471

I've only had my z a couple of days but it's a great little machine

spectreman

HI,
I noticed in this HDD image, that by pressing the L key, selecting the letter C: you find the Multimedia folder.
I'm curious to try my X68000 XVI at 16MHz as you see the videos and photos created by me.

The problem is that I don't know the programs for Windows 11, suitable for creating compatible movies or images, can anyone help me?
Thank you!!!

3rdman01

Quote from: spectreman on April 19, 2024, 03:30:10 AMHI,
I noticed in this HDD image, that by pressing the L key, selecting the letter C: you find the Multimedia folder.
I'm curious to try my X68000 XVI at 16MHz as you see the videos and photos created by me.

The problem is that I don't know the programs for Windows 11, suitable for creating compatible movies or images, can anyone help me?
Thank you!!!
Sorry I can't help about the W11 program but with regards to getting to the multimedia files...I believe you only need to press 1 and 3 on the numpad to change drives. I'm away from home at the moment so I can't double check but I'm pretty sure that's right

armitage

There is a BMP to PIC program (b2pic003.lzh in the nfg archive) you can use on the X itself to convert image files. Max res. is 512x512 I think.

kanjiology

For those of you using a bluescsi v2 with this image, do any of you have an issue with Castlevania? I notice that it is stuck infinitely loading after choosing the music type. It was working fine with henkan bancho.

armitage

Quote from: kanjiology on April 21, 2024, 04:38:58 AMFor those of you using a bluescsi v2 with this image, do any of you have an issue with Castlevania? I notice that it is stuck infinitely loading after choosing the music type. It was working fine with henkan bancho.

I'm using one of the external V2s and haven't had any problems with the game. FWIW I do not use a bluescsi.ini file at all.

kanjiology

Quote from: armitage on April 21, 2024, 04:43:59 AM
Quote from: kanjiology on April 21, 2024, 04:38:58 AMFor those of you using a bluescsi v2 with this image, do any of you have an issue with Castlevania? I notice that it is stuck infinitely loading after choosing the music type. It was working fine with henkan bancho.

I'm using one of the external V2s and haven't had any problems with the game. FWIW I do not use a bluescsi.ini file at all.
Thanks got it working internally. The tab on the sd card was locked may have been my issue.

neko68k

Quote from: spectreman on April 19, 2024, 03:30:10 AMHI,
I noticed in this HDD image, that by pressing the L key, selecting the letter C: you find the Multimedia folder.
I'm curious to try my X68000 XVI at 16MHz as you see the videos and photos created by me.

The problem is that I don't know the programs for Windows 11, suitable for creating compatible movies or images, can anyone help me?
Thank you!!!

There's a boatload of image and video loaders in this folder.

In the parent folder you can find converters and editors and all sorts of other related things.

Don't expect too much from videos unless you're willing to learn how to use specialized formats like MACS.

owen2471

Quote from: incrediblehark on April 17, 2024, 12:36:34 PMHi! I do not own an x68000z mini but there is some talk of getting it to work on another forum. Here is a link discussing the Z mini using an hds image via USB:

https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/sharp-x68000-z-a-decent-alternative.1244932/

Page 2-3 go into how to set up an hds file to use on the z. I don't own one so I can't say for sure what does and doesn't work, but I plan to import one at some point soon and do some testing myself.






Your image works great on the X68000Z

incrediblehark

Updated to 2.20 - my apologies for the delay in releasing this, been a busy month for me.

As always, please report any issues and I'll do my best to fix them. Still on the list to fix is Aquales (I haven't forgotten!)

On another note - minor revisions and fixes will go in the v2.XX numbering. I am in very early stages of starting work on a v3.00 that will contain multiple hard disk images and separate .hds files. The plan is to further sort content by drive, with separate hdds for retail/doujin games, multimedia, etc. It will take some time as this may be a little more ambitious than the previous genre re-sort, but if all works well will greatly expand our storage space.

3rdman01


spectreman

#183
I thank incrediblehark for his generous work.

Unfortunately, as I tested previously, Super Hang-On doesn't work, it freezes at the end of loading.
If I boot Super Hang-On using Eidis HDD V4 image, it works perfectly.
Most likely a system files conflict is preventing it from starting correctly.

Bonanza Bros. only starts at 16 MHz with boot method 2 in the selection menu.

As for Aquales, I played about 10 minutes without any problems, I don't know what problems other users have encountered.

Tests carried out on X68000 XVI 12MB RAM (TSR brand) on HENKAN BANCHO PRO.

incrediblehark

Thank you for the feedback, I'll look into super hang on again, I will admit for this last update I only tested on an emulator, I'll load the image up in my xvi and test as well.if I can come up with a fix I'll do a small update.

Aquales had reports on not being able to play past the first stage. Let me know if you are able to.

HIggy

I just checked on my OG X68000 and Super Hand On is working.

I loaded it (need to wait a while for countdown timer) and played it.

Jehuty

Super Hangon is a very strange game. Here in my near is a Meeting called "Homecon". Everytime i drive the 120km to the meeting Super Hangon will not start at the beginning. After some time its working. But it is working here at home.

armitage

Quote from: neko68k on April 22, 2024, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: spectreman on April 19, 2024, 03:30:10 AMHI,
I noticed in this HDD image, that by pressing the L key, selecting the letter C: you find the Multimedia folder.
I'm curious to try my X68000 XVI at 16MHz as you see the videos and photos created by me.

The problem is that I don't know the programs for Windows 11, suitable for creating compatible movies or images, can anyone help me?
Thank you!!!

There's a boatload of image and video loaders in this folder.

In the parent folder you can find converters and editors and all sorts of other related things.

Don't expect too much from videos unless you're willing to learn how to use specialized formats like MACS.

Been meaning to ask... is there a document somewhere that indicates what the files in the archive are? It's kind of impossible to know what I'm looking at from just the short filenames.

spectreman

Quote from: HIggy on April 28, 2024, 07:47:24 PMI just checked on my OG X68000 and Super Hand On is working.

I loaded it (need to wait a while for countdown timer) and played it.
Sorry but you could be more specific.
On my XVI the countdown starts at 128, reaches 000 and stops, and restarts infinitely.

By the term OG are you referring to the first model from 1987 (CZ-600C)?
If so, that model has a different CPU (Hitachi HD68HC000 10 MHz) than the XVI model which has a Motorola 68000 16 MHz CPU.

Did you boot the HDD image with HENKAN BANCHO PRO or do you use SCSI2SD?

How much total RAM do you have?

spectreman

#189
Quote from: armitage on April 29, 2024, 01:02:39 AM
Quote from: neko68k on April 22, 2024, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: spectreman on April 19, 2024, 03:30:10 AMHI,
I noticed in this HDD image, that by pressing the L key, selecting the letter C: you find the Multimedia folder.
I'm curious to try my X68000 XVI at 16MHz as you see the videos and photos created by me.

The problem is that I don't know the programs for Windows 11, suitable for creating compatible movies or images, can anyone help me?
Thank you!!!

There's a boatload of image and video loaders in this folder.

In the parent folder you can find converters and editors and all sorts of other related things.

Don't expect too much from videos unless you're willing to learn how to use specialized formats like MACS.

Been meaning to ask... is there a document somewhere that indicates what the files in the archive are? It's kind of impossible to know what I'm looking at from just the short filenames.
Copy the files into your HDD image using the Windows program editdisk, and run the documents with the XM6 TypeG emulator to read the contents, they cannot be used on Windows or other systems.

There is no other way to understand how they work, many users have never really tried them.

spectreman

Quote from: incrediblehark on April 28, 2024, 08:37:39 AMThank you for the feedback, I'll look into super hang on again, I will admit for this last update I only tested on an emulator, I'll load the image up in my xvi and test as well.if I can come up with a fix I'll do a small update.

Aquales had reports on not being able to play past the first stage. Let me know if you are able to.
Unfortunately I have to confirm that at the end of the first level of Aquales, the system reboots back to the main screen of your HDD image.

I tried both 16MHz and 10MHz.

HIggy

Quote from: spectreman on April 29, 2024, 06:06:52 AMSorry but you could be more specific.
On my XVI the countdown starts at 128, reaches 000 and stops, and restarts infinitely.

By the term OG are you referring to the first model from 1987 (CZ-600C)?
If so, that model has a different CPU (Hitachi HD68HC000 10 MHz) than the XVI model which has a Motorola 68000 16 MHz CPU.

Did you boot the HDD image with HENKAN BANCHO PRO or do you use SCSI2SD?

How much total RAM do you have?
No problem:
I can't remember what the counter starts at but it counts down to 0 or 000 then the game starts in demo mode and is then playable.
Yes CZ-600C , I can also test on Expert 2.
Using a BlueSCSI V1.
10Mb.

I have heard that 10Mhz CPUs are generally the most compatible. Maybe there is information on what games are not compatible with the other CPUs?
Or test with a PC emulator to confirm.

Shentok

Quote from: spectreman on April 29, 2024, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: incrediblehark on April 28, 2024, 08:37:39 AMThank you for the feedback, I'll look into super hang on again, I will admit for this last update I only tested on an emulator, I'll load the image up in my xvi and test as well.if I can come up with a fix I'll do a small update.

Aquales had reports on not being able to play past the first stage. Let me know if you are able to.
Unfortunately I have to confirm that at the end of the first level of Aquales, the system reboots back to the main screen of your HDD image.

I tried both 16MHz and 10MHz.

I'm fairly certain that Aquales can only be ran off actual floppies or a goteks-like device. After each stage it tries to write your progress to the disk and crashes when it can't. The current mounting method is read-only and the mounting method that allows write doesn't work with this game.

letchuck

Hi, congrats for this image, it's very impressive! I could load it with my SCSI2SD on a X68000 XVI compact, everything went fine, but as my XVI as an audio problem (no sound), I wanted to use it on my ACE. But the boot hang on the splash screen "SXSY-SCSI V2.10. Then nothing happen anymore. I changed the id of the SCSI2SD to 3, and I can boot another image (the one that I used before) without problem. What can be the problem?
Thanks!

neko68k

Quote from: spectreman on April 29, 2024, 06:18:35 AM
Quote from: armitage on April 29, 2024, 01:02:39 AM
Quote from: neko68k on April 22, 2024, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: spectreman on April 19, 2024, 03:30:10 AMHI,
I noticed in this HDD image, that by pressing the L key, selecting the letter C: you find the Multimedia folder.
I'm curious to try my X68000 XVI at 16MHz as you see the videos and photos created by me.

The problem is that I don't know the programs for Windows 11, suitable for creating compatible movies or images, can anyone help me?
Thank you!!!

There's a boatload of image and video loaders in this folder.

In the parent folder you can find converters and editors and all sorts of other related things.

Don't expect too much from videos unless you're willing to learn how to use specialized formats like MACS.

Been meaning to ask... is there a document somewhere that indicates what the files in the archive are? It's kind of impossible to know what I'm looking at from just the short filenames.
Copy the files into your HDD image using the Windows program editdisk, and run the documents with the XM6 TypeG emulator to read the contents, they cannot be used on Windows or other systems.

There is no other way to understand how they work, many users have never really tried them.

Basically, no. I would also not use editdisk for this unless you have unlimited time and patience. Better is to use windrvXM. It lets you access a host folder as though it was a hard drive on the emulated machine. You can get it here.

TBH this is still a time consuming task and if I'm being completely honest I doubt anyone has delved much other than myself and a few others.

If you really want to get lost grab the Dennou Club ISO's and the DOKONAZO ones also. You'll never run out of things to dig through.

spectreman

Knight Arms crashes on loading screen when setting XVI system to 16MHz or 10MHz.

I would like to know from those who use HENKAN BANCHO PRO, what size of clusters do you set for formatting?

Tests carried out on the X68000 XVI, 12MB RAM (TSR brand) on HENKAN BANCHO PRO.

ateam

#196
Quote from: spectreman on May 03, 2024, 05:44:33 AMKnight Arms crashes on loading screen when setting XVI system to 16MHz or 10MHz.

I would like to know from those who use HENKAN BANCHO PRO, what size of clusters do you set for formatting?

Tests carried out on the X68000 XVI, 12MB RAM (TSR brand) on HENKAN BANCHO PRO.

Same.

On my Expert with Henkan Bancho Pro and 10MB of RAM, the game is fine. On my XVI with Henkan Bancho Pro and 12MB of RAM, I get a black screen (crash) after the loading screen in either 10/16MHz mode.

kanjiology

Knight Arms works fine on my X68000 PRO on a BlueSCSI V2.

spectreman

Quote from: kanjiology on May 04, 2024, 06:10:44 AMKnight Arms works fine on my X68000 PRO on a BlueSCSI V2.
x68000 PRO ( CZ-652C ) uses a Hitachi HD68HC000 10 MHz CPU which is different from the XVI ( CZ-634C ) which uses a Motorola 68000 16 MHz CPU.

This difference makes older systems more compatible, however a XVI makes games much faster.

Maybe using a modified game image would fix the problem? I hope incrediblehark can solve these problems with the next versions.

spectreman

Quote from: ateam on May 03, 2024, 07:19:20 AM
Quote from: spectreman on May 03, 2024, 05:44:33 AMKnight Arms crashes on loading screen when setting XVI system to 16MHz or 10MHz.
Quote from: ateam on May 03, 2024, 07:19:20 AM
Quote from: spectreman on May 03, 2024, 05:44:33 AMKnight Arms crashes on loading screen when setting XVI system to 16MHz or 10MHz.

I would like to know from those who use HENKAN BANCHO PRO, what size of clusters do you set for formatting?

Tests carried out on the X68000 XVI, 12MB RAM (TSR brand) on HENKAN BANCHO PRO.

Same.

On my Expert with Henkan Bancho Pro and 10MB of RAM, the game is fine. On my XVI with Henkan Bancho Pro and 12MB of RAM, I get a black screen (crash) after the loading screen in either 10/16MHz mode.
I would like to know from those who use HENKAN BANCHO PRO, what size of clusters do you set for formatting?

Tests carried out on the X68000 XVI, 12MB RAM (TSR brand) on HENKAN BANCHO PRO.

Same.

On my Expert with Henkan Bancho Pro and 10MB of RAM, the game is fine. On my XVI with Henkan Bancho Pro and 12MB of RAM, I get a black screen (crash) after the loading screen in either 10/16MHz mode.
Does Super Hang-On start on the Expert II?