X68K CZ600 + Gotek =Total headheache for a noob

Started by MTD, August 14, 2024, 02:09:34 AM

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MTD

Hello, please can you help me figure out the things i need in order to put a Gotek on my x68K cz600, the gray model? I have never used one of these Gotek emulators and it's soo confusing to sort it out everything alone.
Please let me write you some details and questions:
I made the 34pin extension cable by googling on a japanese website. My cable has 3 connectors: the modified end with the male socket extension i made, then a regular middle one and a "twisted" at the end.

I bought a Gotek yesterday on amazon, the grey unit with digits (no screen or dial).
Does this work as-is? I tryed to put on a Fat32 usb stick a single floppy game in xdf but it does not work, the unit flashes and my x68k eject disks and resets.

I have read that you have to flash the Gotek with Hxc or Flash Floppy? the last one i think is free.
Am i using it wrong or do i have to flash the firmware in order this to work?

My final goal is, since both my drives are no longer working, autoboot the scsi driver with a gotek and then use another hdd/emulator thing to have games to play, unless i missi something else, i'm not really have knowledge in this.

I hope you can help me figure it out. Thanks you

leonk

None of these devices really support the X68000 because the computer doesn't have a standard floppy drive. It has extra signals (like eject disk) that regular FDD don't have and FlashFloppy don't support.

If you really want FDD support in your X68000, then FDX68 with FDD Drive Swapper+ is really your only option. If all you care about is installing the SCSI drivers into SRAM, FDX68 is all you'll need as that boot disk doesn't care to boot from drive ID 2/3 like many games do.

HIggy

@MTD - it's perfectly doable on the CZ600, I've done it both ways.  But first baby steps.

Search GitHub Flashfloppy and follow instructions to flash firmware. You can use HxC but will require you to buy a licence (I've used both FlashFloppy and HxC).
Gotek out the box won't work with X68k disk images.

Can you link to the website you made the cable from. The one I first built uses the signals 'Eject/Insert' from the original disk drives but then Gotek for the actual loading.

You can make these external adapters which simulate the Eject/Insert signals - https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=7225.0

If you are just going to get the SASI bootloader sorted, then you can get away without needing to build the external adapters.

Also I hope you have a battery replacement, otherwise you will need to load the SASI every time you power the X68k on.

I can look at my Gotek jumpers when I am back from holiday, but sorting the Flashfloppy firmware should keep you busy.

z964

Quote from: leonk on August 14, 2024, 09:58:44 PMNone of these devices really support the X68000 because the computer doesn't have a standard floppy drive. It has extra signals (like eject disk) that regular FDD don't have and FlashFloppy don't support.

If you really want FDD support in your X68000, then FDX68 with FDD Drive Swapper+ is really your only option. If all you care about is installing the SCSI drivers into SRAM, FDX68 is all you'll need as that boot disk doesn't care to boot from drive ID 2/3 like many games do.

I have an HxC floppy emulator that works very well with my x68000 XVI, with a couple caveats.

The eject / insert stuff is handled by using a modified floppy cable that maps only those signals to the built in floppy drives in the computer, while mapping everything else to the HxC.  So you just put dummy disks in your real floppy drives and insert or eject them whenever the game expects.  Obviously, a downside of this is you can't use your real floppy drives while this special cable is connected, and it's connected inside the case.

I got the cable on yahoo auctions, and I don't think there are any for sale currently, but a possibly incomplete explanation of the process is here: https://torlus.com/floppy/forum/viewtopic.php?t=465

MTD

#4
Thank you very much for your replies!
Ok, so this is the cable i made: https://gra4.hatenadiary.jp/entry/20171119/1511085342

I have bought 2 Goteks because i have read that they are necessary, i was worried that if i was able to go through the SASI driver and then the game loder (LHES) then i had to have 2 drives in order to the games be working properly, but i don't know if is true or not.

What i did next was creating one Flash Floppy and one Hxc, i was lucky that this last one was free for the summer, i did not have to pay anthing for that. I made both with USB A cable and followed the guides easely.

I had to try both because when i use the hxc emulator to convert the games from xdf/hdm to HFE they barely work... if not at all in many cases. The one i wanted to try for the SASI driver installation (Master disk v2) didn't work, i just had a black screen on both drivers.
I was able to play very few games, mostly 1 floppy based like salamander, but many games do not work or they just get stuck somewhere, also my dummy floppy seems irrelevant, i noticed that the gotek play images with or without the dummy floppy inserted (don't know why tho) but it "asks" to swap the floppy when the program expect the right one, so i suppose thats normal behaviour.

Also, i could not understand the correct position of the drive in my cable, i could not play any multi disk game because i was very confused on where should i put DS0 (in the middle or twisted) and if the DS0 jumper is the only one i need to have closed.
Same as DS1, however this is is even more confusing because i tryed to add a configuration file using the emulator (set to generic shugart) but there is no option for Twisted cable like the "USB" version have in the same program.

My x68k has some new components, a new programmed oscillator and a socket battery. I also have ram expansion, 8MB in total

At this point i think i need to target the option: Single Gotek for SASI (if i can make the image loading somehow, maybe my method of conversion is wrong?) and then LHES. Hope you guys can help figure it out

HIggy

@MTD you move quickly 😄
Yes it is best to have 2 Goteks.
I used that same cable method.

I desoldered the External Disk Drive connector and run my floppy cable out the hole, so have 2 Goteks always connected (1x HxC and 1x Flash floppy).

Maybe try downloading another Master disk? You want to set your RAM at least because if you didn't know, it is not autoconfig. You need to tell the X68k what you have and save it in the battery backup memory.
I managed to find a good archive of disks, then just ran the HXC batch converter to convert them.

Regarding the dummy floppies not doing anything, could be the Jumpers on your Gotek. I am not home for a couple of weeks so cannot tell you what I have done or send you a known working Master Disk for Gotek.

MTD

#6
Quote from: HIggy on August 15, 2024, 05:19:16 PM@MTD you move quickly 😄
Yes it is best to have 2 Goteks.
I used that same cable method.

I desoldered the External Disk Drive connector and run my floppy cable out the hole, so have 2 Goteks always connected (1x HxC and 1x Flash floppy).

Maybe try downloading another Master disk? You want to set your RAM at least because if you didn't know, it is not autoconfig. You need to tell the X68k what you have and save it in the battery backup memory.
I managed to find a good archive of disks, then just ran the HXC batch converter to convert them.

Regarding the dummy floppies not doing anything, could be the Jumpers on your Gotek. I am not home for a couple of weeks so cannot tell you what I have done or send you a known working Master Disk for Gotek.

Yes 😄 I wanted to play some games... hopefully i can wait for your precious help, i'm very confused on these last steps (cable positions, jumpers and file extensions/conversions).. my cable is hanging out the "extension FDD" hole but i managed to make it flat without removing the original socket (maybe the plastic is a bit bumped but i don't care).

Oh, now that i recall the Master Disk is english translated, maybe i'll try to use another one, but first i need to change the battery and set the ram using SWITCH and human (i rememeber that because i used to do that when my coin battery died last time).

While i'll wait, what type of easy solution you guys suggest for the external hardisk socket?
Also, is it possibile to make a cable diy?
Do you think stuff like Scsi2sd or scsi to cf or Zuluscsi will do? What is the best one?


HIggy

Yes definitely set/save SRAM with switch because X68k acts weird when it is not setup.

I suggest BlueSCSI v1 because it works and is cheapest option.

I made my own cables and sit the BlueSCSI between the towers, very neat and can see HD access light flickering. I might have a spare now I've got an internal BlueSCSI working in my Super 2, are you UK based?

You make a small mod to supply power from Floppy drive to External HD port so you don't need extra cables powering the BlueSCSI. The mod is on this forum, probably under the BlueSCSI topic.

MTD

#8
Quote from: HIggy on August 15, 2024, 09:21:07 PMYes definitely set/save SRAM with switch because X68k acts weird when it is not setup.

I suggest BlueSCSI v1 because it works and is cheapest option.

I made my own cables and sit the BlueSCSI between the towers, very neat and can see HD access light flickering. I might have a spare now I've got an internal BlueSCSI working in my Super 2, are you UK based?

You make a small mod to supply power from Floppy drive to External HD port so you don't need extra cables powering the BlueSCSI. The mod is on this forum, probably under the BlueSCSI topic.

I'm from Italy 😒
I had a hard time setting human to be booted with the flash floppy.. damn.
I don't understand why sometimes the floppy works and sometime no. Maybe my procedure is wrong?
I turn on the unit
Wait for the floppy request on screen
insert both dummy floppy in the slot and wait for the green lights
then turn on the Gotek with the usb pen / or insert the usb pen while the Gotek is already on.

Sometimes i can boot files, sometime no. I realized that if i remove the file IMAGE_A.CFG from the usb stick i got a boot almost all the time, but then this file is written again on the stick and i cannot boot it anymore, i have to delete it all the times. I tryed to look inside with notepad but the file is empty. wtf?
Do i need some kind of file configuration inside the usb stick?

I hope when you will get back you can share to me your usb configs and Masterdisk files. Thanks

HIggy

@MTD I found my post regarding Gotek (Flashfloppy):

Ok, so the issue was using a Floppy cable with a twist.

You need to use a STRAIGHT cable.

So S0 jumper for Primary Drive and S1 for Secondary Drive.

FF.cfg is untouched.

But if your cable has a twist as per Win PCs then you won't get anywhere:)

16bitgium


MTD

#11
Quote from: HIggy on August 16, 2024, 10:30:04 PM@MTD I found my post regarding Gotek (Flashfloppy):

Ok, so the issue was using a Floppy cable with a twist.

You need to use a STRAIGHT cable.

So S0 jumper for Primary Drive and S1 for Secondary Drive.

FF.cfg is untouched.

But if your cable has a twist as per Win PCs then you won't get anywhere:)

Thank you very much, i'll try to dig a normal cable or maybe untwist the one i have by opening it.
Damn.. i don't have any FF.CFG in my stick... what should i use it? Or write inside it?

EDIT: Ok now even more weird stuff... why is this so complicated 😭
With a straight cable: If i SET Flash floppy to S0 and Hxc to S1... Hxc reads every thing, FF get stuck and won't load much.
If i do the exact opposite, so Flash Floppy set to S1 and Hxc to S0.. now Flash Floppy works perfectyl without any CFG file whatsoever but Hxc get stuck.

What the hell?

HIggy

My others notes said:

Remove 'MO' jumpers.

As I mentioned HxC does work with just a Primary drive, I've only tried 1 FlashFloppy drive, maybe this is causing  the issues (although not sure why it would be ok with just 1 HxC Gotek?).

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If the HxC licence is currently free, I would be tempted to convert your Flashfloppy Gotek also to HxC. Then have 2 the same.
Also for Flashfloppy the FF.cfg is available from their Wiki. Config might need Shugart option selected.

If you can get 1 drive to work and load Master Disk, then get a BlueSCSI v1 on order. There are EU sellers, maybe one in Italy. It seems best to flash the firmware with the Japanese firmware. Info on this Forum, you need another cheap programmer.

MTD

#13
Quote from: HIggy on August 17, 2024, 06:20:43 PMMy others notes said:

Remove 'MO' jumpers.

As I mentioned HxC does work with just a Primary drive, I've only tried 1 FlashFloppy drive, maybe this is causing  the issues (although not sure why it would be ok with just 1 HxC Gotek?).

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If the HxC licence is currently free, I would be tempted to convert your Flashfloppy Gotek also to HxC. Then have 2 the same.
Also for Flashfloppy the FF.cfg is available from their Wiki. Config might need Shugart option selected.

If you can get 1 drive to work and load Master Disk, then get a BlueSCSI v1 on order. There are EU sellers, maybe one in Italy. It seems best to flash the firmware with the Japanese firmware. Info on this Forum, you need another cheap programmer.

Thank you mate. I tryed have both Hxc but nearly identical behaviour. My jumpers were only set to S0 and S1, i don't have anything else on the board (they are all opened)
At this point i might just give up on the dual floppy and aim for leaving one, do the Master Disk thing and then buy some SASI HDD adapter for the HDD image... How about this one?: https://www.ebay.it/itm/325783456067

For what i have understood the HDD games are the "installed versions" of these games so i don't need to have the floppy drives both to be fully operational, also because there is no need to swap disks or emulate them, am i right?

HIggy

I think there might be a couple of games that need a disk in for the Insert/Eject signal but all the main games don't need floppy, so you are good 👍

That eBay link shows one of the more X68k dedicated devices, so should be fine. But it is expensive.

This is an EU seller of BlueSCSI V2 which has the correct plug, so just plugs into back of X68k:
https://shop.onegeekarmy.eu/index.php/product/bluescsi-v2-centronics-2/

MTD

Quote from: HIggy on August 17, 2024, 08:50:26 PMI think there might be a couple of games that need a disk in for the Insert/Eject signal but all the main games don't need floppy, so you are good 👍

That eBay link shows one of the more X68k dedicated devices, so should be fine. But it is expensive.

This is an EU seller of BlueSCSI V2 which has the correct plug, so just plugs into back of X68k:
https://shop.onegeekarmy.eu/index.php/product/bluescsi-v2-centronics-2/
Awesome!!! Thank you! I'll buy one right now!

MTD

#16
Today my BlueSCSIv2 arrived home and after nearly 3 hours and a half of nothingness, thanks also to these barely-written tutorials, i gave up for today.

Using winimage32 i wrote the sxsi-SCSI_v220.hds image into a 8Gb micro sd and put it in the unit and plugged it back on my x68k in the external sasi hdd socket.
After some attempts were my flashfloppy refused to boot the MasterDiskv2 (??), i immidiatly had issues that i could not figure out.

After using "cd sxsi,scsiformat" i typed 0 for the drive but it never reconized it and keep saying "Unit not found". At first i thought the BlueSCSI needed power so i plugged a Microusb in the pico socket and infact the BlueSCSI turned is self on with a whitre light (At first i thought it was already powered by the socket itself) but that won't made the change.

I then tryed god knows how many times to enter in SWITCH with HumanOS 3.2 image but that bastard refused to show up!! I constantly got the disk error message to retry or ignore... why is it doing this to me??!!

When i changed the battery i was able to go into SWITCH and change my ram settings as i have 6 in total but now no.. it won't let me use it anymore. just why!! I want to throw this unit outside the window!

MTD

#17
What a crazy trip, i wasn't expecting this to be that complicated. Yet still, i'm not 100% done, but maybe it will help someone else in the future.
So my actual set-up is HXC in S0 (end cable, not twisted) and FF in S1 (middle cable, modded with oled and rotary and waiting for a printed case, i ruined the original one 😝).

My BlueSCSIV2 was formatted with "Sdcard formatter" using Overwrite option as suggested. I tryed both sxsi-scsi_v220 and V4 images, renamed them "HD00_512.hds" as tutorial suggested but i keep having this error "Can not identify the unit".

i also realized that i cannot use anymore any human68K image with "SWITCH", i keep having "Abort/Retry/Ignore" after i hit enter on the keyboard (it never happened before and i was able to enter Switch ti change my ram configuration once).
I have tryed ANYTHING i could, i made another internal cable, twisted or untwisted, single and double, i changed the units order (S0 and S1 jumpers), i changed the cable orders, i removed the battery because i thought i had messed up something in the settings, leave it unplugged for a while and tryed again, i re-formatted my usb sticks (None of my gotek drives got configuration files inside), i have used other brands, other HDF converted files, other versions 3.0, 2.0...

All of this gave me absolutely NOTHING, if not worst in some cases and not even read images or keeps resettings.



aotta

May be posting the log file from your sdcard could help in troubleshooting

MTD

I have made some progress but i'm still stuck somewhere. I'm just a tiny close to make this thing work (i hope).

I realized that BlueSCSIv2 need some power on/off while searching the hdd in the cofiguration. If i turn it off and then on and press a few time the 0 Key for the drive id, the HDD is reconized.

I was able to set all the procedures after i lost another hour to figure out this parameter:
"*Press A to select A: as the source drive."
My unit hates so much that "A" and always returned me "Retry/Abort/Ignore" until i realized that inputting "B" will let me move on.

After all the setting the last part is what actually is blocking me again one more last time (if it was enought already)

After setting correctly the bootloader i could not get this last part:
cd ..
copy command.x c:

When i try that the system always says that the file is not present/the file is wrong/the file is not correct. I have tryed typing it in every method but i cannot copy that file to C:

At the moment my unit turns on, get into the bootloader, finds at ID0 "SCSI UNIT" but then the unit is unable to boot from it (i assue because of command.x) and so it switch iteself to the floppy insert screen. I couldn't past that at the moment.

aotta

Post log file you must found in bluescsi2 sdcard, if you don't find it, you probably didn't set up the sdcard properly

MTD

Quote from: aotta on September 02, 2024, 01:53:09 AMPost log file you must found in bluescsi2 sdcard, if you don't find it, you probably didn't set up the sdcard properly

Thanks for the suggestion, this is the last log:

Platform: BlueSCSI
FW Version: 2024.05.21-rel May 21 2024 21:21:44
Flash chip size: 2048 kB
 
=== SD Card Info ===
SD card detected, FAT32 volume size: 30424 MB
SD Name: SD32G, MID: 0x03, OID: 0x53 0x44
 
=== Global Config ===
Config file bluescsi.ini not found, using defaults
Active configuration:
 
=== Finding images in / ===
== Opening /HD00_512.HDS for ID: 0 LUN: 0
---- WARNING: This image does not appear to be a valid Macintosh Device image. See: https://github.com/BlueSCSI/BlueSCSI-v2/wiki/Disk-Images
---- Image ready

=== ROM Drive ===
Platform supports ROM drive up to 1692 kB
---- ROM drive image not detected
 
=== Configured SCSI Devices ===
* ID: 0, BlockSize: 512, Type: Fixed, Quirks: Apple, Size: 921600kB
 
Initialization complete!

aotta

It seems that your config for bluescsi2 is wrong, you have to setup it for x68000. I made the quirk for it, see in bluescsi2 thread here for details

MTD

Quote from: aotta on September 02, 2024, 07:57:28 PMIt seems that your config for bluescsi2 is wrong, you have to setup it for x68000. I made the quirk for it, see in bluescsi2 thread here for details

Please can you link it to me? There are too many threads about

aotta

Quote from: MTD on September 02, 2024, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: aotta on September 02, 2024, 07:57:28 PMIt seems that your config for bluescsi2 is wrong, you have to setup it for x68000. I made the quirk for it, see in bluescsi2 thread here for details

Please can you link it to me? There are too many threads about
I'm talking about this 3ad: https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=7198.0

Anyway, this is my "bluescsi.ini" content:
[SCSI]
System = "X68000"
EnableParity = 0
Debug = 0

Just create the bluescsi.ini file in your sdcard and copy & paste the code.


Also, i named my hd images as "HD00_512.hda", probably the extension hds is fine too, but you could try rename it too.

MTD

#25
Quote from: aotta on September 03, 2024, 02:53:17 AM
Quote from: MTD on September 02, 2024, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: aotta on September 02, 2024, 07:57:28 PMIt seems that your config for bluescsi2 is wrong, you have to setup it for x68000. I made the quirk for it, see in bluescsi2 thread here for details

Please can you link it to me? There are too many threads about
I'm talking about this 3ad: https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=7198.0

Anyway, this is my "bluescsi.ini" content:
[SCSI]
System = "X68000"
EnableParity = 0
Debug = 0

Just create the bluescsi.ini file in your sdcard and copy & paste the code.


Also, i named my hd images as "HD00_512.hda", probably the extension hds is fine too, but you could try rename it too.


Thank you! Yet still, i'ts not booting from the HDD or being reconized on the sxsi loader boot (it keeps saying that "the unit is not capable of booting" and then goes to the normal floppy home screen.

MTD

#26
More weird stuff to the pile:
I figure out why i had so many Abort/retry/Ignore errors, basically i need to have the same image on both goteks. I had no errors since and i was able again to use switch.

I'm at a point where the units boots, reconize the hdd, says "IPL BOOT" but then the screen is black.

I archive this after reading another tutorial that was mentioning to "copyall a:*.* c:" after the usual process (this is not mentioned at all in the v4 txt).

At this poin i would love to know what i need to have into switch (as settings) and also what i need to set as a jumper on the BlueSCSIv2 (Trm on or Trm off?)
I think i'm very close but boy, this was an adventure indeed

aotta

After booting from floppy, if your sxsi device is recognized, simply type:

cd sxsi
bootset.x
ED0100
1

Then reboot and you'll have the screen with "Welcome... SxSI booter version 1.xx"
If so, report the screenshot you got and also the log.txt from sdcard
   else
your sram is not working, replace it


MTD

Quote from: aotta on September 04, 2024, 02:43:25 AMAfter booting from floppy, if your sxsi device is recognized, simply type:

cd sxsi
bootset.x
ED0100
1

Then reboot and you'll have the screen with "Welcome... SxSI booter version 1.xx"
If so, report the screenshot you got and also the log.txt from sdcard
   else
your sram is not working, replace it



Yes, i already did that with no problem but unfortunatly after the reconize and the "IPL BOOT" the screen remains black, i do not see LHES or nothing else. What should i set into Switch? and what about the jumpers on the BlueScsiV2?

aotta

Quote from: MTD on September 04, 2024, 03:14:21 AM
Quote from: aotta on September 04, 2024, 02:43:25 AMAfter booting from floppy, if your sxsi device is recognized, simply type:

cd sxsi
bootset.x
ED0100
1

Then reboot and you'll have the screen with "Welcome... SxSI booter version 1.xx"
If so, report the screenshot you got and also the log.txt from sdcard
   else
your sram is not working, replace it



Yes, i already did that with no problem but unfortunatly after the reconize and the "IPL BOOT" the screen remains black, i do not see LHES or nothing else. What should i set into Switch? and what about the jumpers on the BlueScsiV2?

I don't understand why you ask for help and then you don't read the answer...

MTD

#30
I don't know buddy, i already have the "Welcome to Sxsi.. " page, does this mean that i already have bootloader in the sram, right? After that "IPL boot" i got a black screen and nothing else.

I tryed to remove the battery and then i went one more time doing all of this. (the program NEVER asked me to format, i usually have to press 5, press Y 2 times and then make the boot partition before the stuff in the screen shot)

And yes, i have the INI, i have the HDA renamed (i also tryed the "30" version instead of "00" and renamed to HDS/HDA just to try) , and i have set the jumper to TRM ON according on what i have read somewhere else.

The BlueSCSI is mostly never reconized if i do not power it on/off itself, i never see it listed in the boot (it is generally listed as not reconized/not useable)

This is my last log:
Platform: BlueSCSI
FW Version: 2024.05.21-rel May 21 2024 21:21:44
Flash chip size: 2048 kB
 
=== SD Card Info ===
SD card detected, FAT32 volume size: 30424 MB
SD Name: SD32G, MID: 0x03, OID: 0x53 0x44
 
=== Global Config ===
Reading configuration from bluescsi.ini
Active configuration (using system preset "X68000"):
-- EnableSCSI2 is off
-- Parity is disabled
 
=== Finding images in / ===
== Opening /HD00_512.HDS for ID: 0 LUN: 0
---- Image ready

=== ROM Drive ===
Platform supports ROM drive up to 1692 kB
---- ROM drive image not detected
 
=== Configured SCSI Devices ===
* ID: 0, BlockSize: 512, Type: Fixed, Quirks: X68000, Size: 921600kB
 
Initialization complete!

aotta

#31
Ok, these are definitely more clear info about your situation, noone here has a glass ball to read! ;)
I asked for a screenshot of your boot screen, it's not clear what you mean with "black screen", but anyway...
First of all, you don't have to copy anything on hard disk drive after the bootset.x, the v4 image is "plug & play", just copy it to the sdcard, rename as you already did and it boots to LHES prompt.
I think you could have some power issue, also if it's not reported by log (sometime i got a "low voltage level warning", but it seems not your case).
How did you power the bluescsi2?
What's about the led in it? you got the blue one flashing at boot?

This is how my Ace HD boots, for comparing:



MTD

#32
Yeah, sorry. Sometimes i explain myself like a donky, especially outside my leanguage.
So this is what i got by far after a system reset (i removed the battery).
The BlueSCSIv2 turns on, make a single green blink on the pico, then the blue light turns blue and after some seconds it turns off, giving me this attached screen.
The white light near the connector is always on.
its powered by a usb charger with 3/4AMPs


(i saw your video) When i had the IPL BOOT too my unit remains black screen after that. I never see the launcher like yours.
Salva un tuo connazionale :D

aotta

And what if you press the reset button on top of the X68k? always a "ID0 SASI Unit" or sometimes you got the "ID0 IPL Boot" you mentioned before?
Also, try to increase the wait time after SASI BUS reset (by using 5 or more seconds in BOOTSEC.X when flashing the boot).
And, it could help a picture of your bluescsi2 to check if all jumpers are ok

MTD

Quote from: aotta on September 04, 2024, 05:22:09 AMAnd what if you press the reset button on top of the X68k? always a "ID0 SASI Unit" or sometimes you got the "ID0 IPL Boot" you mentioned before?
Also, try to increase the wait time after SASI BUS reset (by using 5 or more seconds in BOOTSEC.X when flashing the boot).
And, it could help a picture of your bluescsi2 to check if all jumpers are ok

I always got ID SASI Unit. I had ILP before but god knows how i archived that, i think i tryed the process like 15 times at least (it didn't past however).
I don't have other jumpers, i think you did not understand that my unit is a V2 not the first one you got (i only have TRM on/off as a jumper) and also my sharp is the old first model, not the super or ace.

aotta

Mine is a bluescsi v2, and i've the same working on my CZ-600 and in my Expert too:

MTD

Quote from: aotta on September 04, 2024, 05:46:07 AMMine is a bluescsi v2, and i've the same working on my CZ-600 and in my Expert too:


Mine is different, it's the centronics version
https://shop.onegeekarmy.eu/index.php/product/bluescsi-v2-centronics-2/
How did you managed to put a v2 50 pin inside a cz-600? There is no 50 pin as i recall, nor HDD

aotta

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Quote from: MTD on September 04, 2024, 05:50:50 AM
Quote from: aotta on September 04, 2024, 05:46:07 AMHow did you managed to put a v2 50 pin inside a cz-600? There is no 50 pin as i recall, nor HDD

I made a cable as from the guide:
https://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:hard_drive_on_sasi_machine
but in CZ-600 there's no space inside for the bluescsi2, so i use it external for it, with a cable from d-sub to 50 pin idc i did myself too

MTD

At this point i must suppose my BlueSCSIv2 Centronics must be the culprit...
after some usual online browsing i have found that some people recommend to use Switch and change the setting for "HD MAX" from 1 to 0.

Infact, when my system is set to 0 i got SCSI UNIT at ID0 but unable to boot, when is set to 1 i got the IPL BOOT all the time but i cannot get LHES to show after that.

I've take a look on the Bluescsi led situation and after a brief blue light near the microSD card, just right after the IPL BOOT fase, the unit seems like stuck because there are no lights other that the white one near the centronics connector. I have the feeling that the unit freeze and there's no data comuncation somehow.

I wonder what that could be. Maybe i should try some further configuration or image renaming, but i don't have any idea. @aotta do you mind share me your sd ini and log and image name? (i know it's a big request but having directly all of those files might help me a lot..)

aotta

Quote from: MTD on September 04, 2024, 04:31:22 PMI wonder what that could be. Maybe i should try some further configuration or image renaming, but i don't have any idea. @aotta do you mind share me your sd ini and log and image name? (i know it's a big request but having directly all of those files might help me a lot..)
I already wrote my bluescsi.ini some post above, and from your log you sdcard seems ok.
I have a similar issue than your when i've low power or cable too long.
So, i think your cable is suspect... is it longer than 10cm? if so, you should try with a shorter one, i solved with one external drive just with a very short cable instead of the longer ones.