August 10, 2020, 06:59:47 am

Easy PicoPSU

Started by mattsoft, October 01, 2018, 03:59:09 am

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leonk

Have you tried restoring one of these PSUs and had any level of success with it? I have. replaced almost every component (at high cost from digi-key I might add). still failed. Ended being the wire inside the transformer were melted/fused. Put the picoPSU into the XVI.

Modern switching power supplies can be had of higher quality than your Amazon China special with a lot more safety features and better filtering.

In my OG X68k I have a modern 1U server grade PSU. I replaced the caps with Nichicon just as a precaution even though it was a very expensive PSU already (relative to common desktop ATX power supplies). I know this would last longer than anything I could have done with the stock.

Jehuty

When my x68000 PSU gone dead i replaced all leaked caps withnew ones and had no luck. Still a failure in another part.
Finaly i replaced it with a new one and been happy.

aje_fr

I got 100% success on all PSU I repaired... And trust me, I have done somes...

TD-Linux

Quote from: leonk on April 07, 2019, 02:39:37 am
Have you tried restoring one of these PSUs and had any level of success with it? I have. replaced almost every component (at high cost from digi-key I might add). still failed. Ended being the wire inside the transformer were melted/fused. Put the picoPSU into the XVI.


Mine also has a clearly broken transformer. The way the PSU is designed, when the primary side transistor fails short, it will also cook the transformer winding and possibly some resistors in the same route.

leonk

Here’s an example of one that leaked so bad, parts were falling off the PCB. Everything was cooked including the transformer and the fuse exploded and caught on fire at some point.

Note all the wonderful capacitor gunk.


neko68k

geez mine didn't look that bad lol... My Pro had an SH5 in it that already had higher rated caps than I've seen listed anywhere, even in guides advising higher ratings and it was still dead. I recapped it myself and it stayed dead so I threw it in the trash. Aint nobody got time for that.

cauterize

Matt very kindly sorted me out with an Easy PicoPSU recently (and with a lot of technical assistance too) - despite my limited knowledge working on such fiddly electronics, it really was a straightforward to install in an Ace HD. I feel much safer knowing I've removed the board and those troublesome capacitors, so here's to plenty more gaming on the X68000!

cometclean

Greetings,

I have a an Expert X68000 with what I believe to be a broken psu. Are there any more power supplies available? I am assuming the LEGO type will work with Expert?


Cheers!

mattsoft

I have a couple of more spare boards if you need one, but I don't know if the Expert uses the same PSU as the ACE or not. Hopefully someone else knows!

Quote from: cometclean on September 16, 2019, 03:19:22 pmGreetings,

I have a an Expert X68000 with what I believe to be a broken psu. Are there any more power supplies available? I am assuming the LEGO type will work with Expert?


Cheers!

hoshikawa

all manhattan shape models from ACE to '030 use the same size power supply, the so called tetris block. i'm using a mattsoft board in an EXPERT II.

3rdman01

Quote from: mattsoft on September 17, 2019, 03:52:56 amI have a couple of more spare boards if you need one, but I don't know if the Expert uses the same PSU as the ACE or not. Hopefully someone else knows!


Hello! I've recently purchased my first X68K...I don't completely know what I've gotten myself into yet (LOL) but I am certain that the first thing I need to do when my machine arrives is to change the PSU. With that said, I've stumbled onto this thread which lead me to your github page with the BOM. It seems that the PSU you chose is sold out with an LONG lead time...I am think of getting the higher-rated version (120W) as it has the exact same foot print. I don't believe there are downsides to this but I thought I'd ask your opinion. Also, I've never used Gerber or KiCad and not wholly sure how to use these files when ordering. If you have any more spare PCBs, would you sell me one?

Thank you!

mattsoft

You should be fine with the higher wattage one. Let me know if you need any help!

3rdman01

Excellent! I'll get to buying the pieces.

How about the PCB itself? Any spares on hand that you could sell me? Thanks again!

mattsoft

Quote from: 3rdman01 on September 23, 2019, 05:36:41 amExcellent! I'll get to buying the pieces.

How about the PCB itself? Any spares on hand that you could sell me? Thanks again!

I have 3 boards left and can spare 1. After that, I'll need to keep the remaining 2 for projects. If more people want them, I'll order another batch and make them available.

ashrion

Pico psu posibility problems is very high.
For my  x30  bought one psu original in japan 100% new components. All new, not expensive cost, machine is very
expensive and I have not problem in pay it if works  perfectly . I  use my x30 with 12mb ram inside motherbard principal 8 mb ram, midi, original monitor 21" Sharp x68. x68030 is  mod version 100% cpu chip mmu mod socket, power is 30% more of a normal x30. 2year  ago I bought a ac  and it works perfectly.

The problems originals ac  are that their use was so little. Computers without use makes the ac to die in  10-20-30 years and because of that ac will be destroyed.


My xvi is a secondary computer, mod atx and ac atx out computer, pico psu not is not good  quality ac component, they has bad components and they are not reliables and some pico psu don't work. They are a poor product. . I don't use it in x68 computers.


3rdman01

So I just received my X68k (Expert HD) in the mail and I'll be plugging in the PicoPSU tonight to test it out (thanks again, Matt)...I don't have a video out yet though so is there any way of testing it without video?

On another note, it came with an unadvertised 4mb expansion!

3rdman01

So I quickly ripped out the old PSU and sure enough, a black scorch mark shows evidence that the PSU was shot. I quickly removed it and wired everything up with the PicoPSU and BOOM it started up right away! It booted to a copy of Gradius that the seller left in the drive and couldn't remove.

So happy! Next thing to do is rip open the base and check/replace the battery and then seriously clean it...It smells awful...The previous owner was serious about smoking and seemed to be dedicated to never cleaning it.

Jurger

Quote from: mattsoft on September 23, 2019, 08:35:56 am
Quote from: 3rdman01 on September 23, 2019, 05:36:41 amExcellent! I'll get to buying the pieces.

How about the PCB itself? Any spares on hand that you could sell me? Thanks again!

I have 3 boards left and can spare 1. After that, I'll need to keep the remaining 2 for projects. If more people want them, I'll order another batch and make them available.

Greetings, first post in this forum.

I will be acquiring classic gray CZ-600C X68000 computer soon. I have come to understand, that original PSU is not going to be good solution in a long term even when recapped. So I have been searching high and low for a replacement solution for classic X68000 PSU situation and time and time again the traces lead me here. I know mattsoft has designed a PCB for PicoPSU to make the life easier. I came to understand that the older PCB version ( https://github.com/mattsoft/X68K_EZ_Pico_PSU ) is compatible with CZ-600C, but not the newer one ( https://github.com/mattsoft/X68K_Pico_PSU_v2 ).

I think I need a bit of hand holding with this one as I'm not too familiar with PicoPSU or X68000 yet.

Could someone be willing to build and sell somewhat ready-made X68000 PicoPSU Power Adapter with all the parts soldered? Or could someone point me to the right direction where could this kind of shop/person be found? I have one friend who is good at soldering etc. that I will be going to ask help with recapping the whole X68000 (I have read that it is strongly recommended).

Or is there some other solution I just haven't found yet?

Help would be much appreciated! :-)

mez

hi,
why don't you buy an already made PICO PSU (approx 30€) + Arananet adapter :
https://www.arananet.net/pedidos/product/atx-adapter-for-x68000/

Jurger

Quote from: mez on June 21, 2020, 02:13:45 amhi,
why don't you buy an already made PICO PSU (approx 30€) + Arananet adapter :
https://www.arananet.net/pedidos/product/atx-adapter-for-x68000/

Thanks for the advice! :-) I didn't know arananet's existence before this. Ordered one X68000 psu adapter from there. Very nice!

UD2

Just dropping in to say that I used the V2 PCB to replace the faulty PSU in my XVI and it worked great! Thanks for designing this PCB :-) For anyone considering a recap, don't bother, just build one of these! I recapped my original PSU and it still ended up failing for different reasons about a year later, they're not worth your time.

famiac

August 04, 2020, 03:54:41 pm #101 Last Edit: August 04, 2020, 03:58:27 pm by famiac
Does anybody have a spare V2 PCB? the ATX psu I installed in 2013 is stinking up the place

also, can anyone recommend a source for a PicoPSU?

mattsoft

Quote from: famiac on August 04, 2020, 03:54:41 pmDoes anybody have a spare V2 PCB? the ATX psu I installed in 2013 is stinking up the place

also, can anyone recommend a source for a PicoPSU?

I have 1 left from my last batch. If you're in the US, shipping is cheap. Just PM me.