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Started by eidis, July 16, 2014, 03:30:02 AM

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eidis

 Ladies and Gentlemen,

Today I would like to start a Wiki article which could help avoid confusion for users who are new to X68000 and let them have better understanding of what they have gotten themselves into ;)

X68000 FAQ
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:x68000_faq

Right now there is only one paragraph regarding memory expansion compatibility. Please propose topics in this thread which you think should be added to the article.

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Eidis
X68000 personal computer is called, "X68K" or "no good good" is called, is the PC that are loved by many people today.

famiac

Haha, i figured i would get annoying and tire you sometime. I hope one day i can contribute instead of being so novice

Thanks for creating this eidis

98pacecar

I'd add the BasicHouse KGB-PRK (1, 2, 3, and 4mb) and KGB-PRK II (2, 4, 6, and 8mb) with fpu. From what I can gather so far, they seem to be compatible up to the XVI, but I can only prove they work in a 2mb Super.

BlueBMW

I have long considered writing a complete new users guide covering everything from the purchase of to the repair and use of these systems.  Its kind of a daunting task but it would be incredibly useful for new users.

eidis

 Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have a huge favor to ask you. Can you please make high resolution photos of your expansion boards from both sides, or additional X68000 hardware like monitors, printers, etc, and post them here or upload to the FTP ?

http://nfggames.com/X68000/upload.htm

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famiac

I'll have a TS-6BGA, a midi board, and an Xsimm10 waiting for me. i'll take pictures of them when i get home in august, what resolution are you looking for?

eidis

 Hi Famiac !

Any resolution will be good as long as chip part numbers are clearly readable.

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wildo2ne

uploaded photos of the ram board DSC_79 - 81

famiac

Would it be a good idea to add an "alright so i got my x68000, what now?" Section

I feel like it'd be nice. I don't want to bug the forum with a thread because i know almost nothing about x68000

Segasonicfan

Quote from: famiac on July 26, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
Would it be a good idea to add an "alright so i got my x68000, what now?" Section

I feel like it'd be nice. I don't want to bug the forum with a thread because i know almost nothing about x68000

Lol, that's what I've been doing.  I mean google first but there's a LOT of info that is undocumented!  The RAM stuff gets kinda confusing, as does HD support and all the hidden menus in games.

-Segasonicfan
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eidis

 Hi Wildo2ne, Famiac, Segasonicfan and 98Pacecar !

Wildo2ne,

Thank you, these are great !

Famiac, Segasonicfan,

Thank you for the feedback. The main goal is to explain as much as possible about the RAM expansions, HDD mod, standard mandatory repairs and cover the main questions which we usually get from new users. The introduction part on "What to do with my X68000" will be added after all other chapters are complete. Please let me know if there is something else which you think deserves special attention.

98Pacecar,

Could you please take pics of your KGB-PRK board and upload them to the FTP ?

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98pacecar

Uploaded pics of both a KGB-PRK II (4mb) and a CZ-6BP1 co-processor board.

eidis

Hi 98Pacecar !

Thank you very much !

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msxtrd

Upped photos of 2MB internal expansion for Compacvt XVI. Sharp CZ-6BE2D.

eidis

 Hi Msxtrd !

Thank you very much, these are perfect !

CZ-6BE2D - Memory expansion board
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:cz-6be2d_-_memory_expansion_board

Hi 98Pacecar !

Could you please retake pictures of your boards, preferably outside where there is a lot of light and so that the flash will not interfere, and reupload them ? Sorry for being so picky.

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BlueBMW

Ive found that a flatbed scanner actually works really good for getting pictures of circuit boards.

eidis

 Hi BlueBMW !

I fully agree. The detail and sharpness is very impressive.

CZ-5BE4 - Memory expansion board
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:cz-5be4_-_memory_expansion_board

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eidis

 Hi Guys !

Today I made a huge update to the FAQ. Please have a look and let me know your thoughts and suggestions. Can any MIDI guru help with the MIDI section ? Please let me know what you would like to see in the Troubleshooting section as well.

X68000 FAQ
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:x68000_faq

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X68000 personal computer is called, "X68K" or "no good good" is called, is the PC that are loved by many people today.

BlueBMW

I should be able to help with the MIDI some.  Though maybe someone can do the boards since I dont have access to every model. I think there are at least two Sharp boards and two Sacom boards.

Also for troubleshooting we should definitely somehow write something up on this topic:

http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4901.msg32129#msg32129

I keep hearing of this problem more and more!

eidis

 Hi BlueBMW !

Thank you for the suggestions. Please have a look at the following links and let me know if something needs to be corrected.

Fixing RGB output
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:fixing_rgb_output

CZ-6BM1 - MIDI board
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:cz-6bm1_-_midi_board

CZ-6BM1A - MIDI board
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:cz-6bm1a_-_midi_board

SX-68M - MIDI board
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:sx-68m_-_midi_board

SX-68M II - MIDI board
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:sx-68m_ii_-_midi_board

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BlueBMW

Looks good.   In the SX-68M page one of the pictures looks like the SX-68M-2 though.

Also, we should add a short article about building an adapter for the MIDI boards that use the mini din connectors.

Ill work on the modules and set up this afternoon.

eidis

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 Hi BlueBMW !

You were right about the picture, I removed it. The article about the cable was also added.

Mini DIN 5pin to DIN 5pin MIDI cable
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:midi_cable

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eidis

 Hi Guys !

Added new info to MIDI section.

X68000 FAQ
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:x68000_faq&#midi

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eidis

 Hi Guys !

Due to recent events, a very scary Warning section was added to the FAQ.

!!! WARNING !!!
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:x68000_faq&#warning

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eidis

 Hi Guys !

Links to software downloads were added in the introduction section:

X68000 FAQ - Introduction
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:x68000_faq&#introduction

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Segasonicfan

Did some updates to the Floppy Writing Page:
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:writing_floppies

added Virtual Image Floppy Converter info and minor stuff.

-Segasonicfan
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I design PCBs for retro game systems :)

SuperDeadite

Quote from: Segasonicfan on April 04, 2015, 07:11:07 AM
Did some updates to the Floppy Writing Page:
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:writing_floppies

added Virtual Image Floppy Converter info and minor stuff.

-Segasonicfan

You should really edit that to be more specific.  XDF only supports 2HD format disks.  While DIM supports everything.
Meaning VIFC is useless for floppies that use more exotic formats such as 2HDE and 2HS disks.  For example Xak II uses
2HDE format, and if you feed those DIMs into VIFC it will give you an error message as they are not supported.

Segasonicfan

Hey Dean,
  I actually didn't know that.  I've only used 2HD disks and as far as I know, Omniflop cannot write DIM, only XDF.  So it made sense to add it there as a sub text to the Omniflop instructions.  Just trying to help, but if someone wants to change it they can, that's why it is a wiki.
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SuperDeadite

Quote from: Segasonicfan on April 04, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
Hey Dean,
  I actually didn't know that.  I've only used 2HD disks and as far as I know, Omniflop cannot write DIM, only XDF.  So it made sense to add it there as a sub text to the Omniflop instructions.  Just trying to help, but if someone wants to change it they can, that's why it is a wiki.

Think you have me confused with someone, as my name isn't Dean lol.  Anyway I have never used Omniflop as I do all my floppy writing directly on an X68000 machine.  But from the little I read a long time ago, You can setup Omniflop to use any disk format (assuming you have compatible hardware) by giving it a blank but formatted disk.  XDFs are always 2HD hence it's a preset format.  DIM has no restrictions on actual format type, so I assume this is what Omniflop doesn't like.  I see no reason why it can't use the 9-sector formats, you just need to format a disk on the real machine first.  But 1, I don't have that setup to test, and 2, not all 2HD pc drives are compatible with the 9-sector formats, so possibly hardware issues too.

RobIvy64

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Segasonicfan

QuoteAnyway I have never used Omniflop as I do all my floppy writing directly on an X68000 machine
Then why you are commenting on my edit for the omniflop page?  I would use the program before saying I need to edit the wiki.  And please, feel free to edit it yourself.


Quote from: RobIvy64 on April 05, 2015, 01:24:56 AM
lol @ the first name basis attempt

it was my mistake.  but alas! no thread is complete without robivy trolling it
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Hey Edgar, I was just kidding!
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