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Altynex CD image

Started by Opethian, July 07, 2014, 07:20:55 am

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Opethian

Ive seen an HDD image for this game floating around but I cant seem to find the CD image that was procured. were the files just put into a cdimage form the HDD?



Opethian

Thanks and thanks! I probably don't have enough machine power to run the CD version but I was always wanting to try. Is there a thread about what was done to make the cd image?

many thanks!

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Opethian

Quote from: RobIvy64 on July 08, 2014, 12:26:56 am
WAR3Z!

You should have enough memory, but it might run a little slow on that 20MHz 486.

You tried this game? what setup would be ideal?

caius

Quote from: Opethian on July 07, 2014, 11:19:22 pm
Thanks and thanks! I probably don't have enough machine power to run the CD version but I was always wanting to try. Is there a thread about what was done to make the cd image?

many thanks!


Here is the original thread which explains the CD creation process, maybe AnnaWu can tell more about.

http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=80992#Post80992

Opethian

I did PM anna but she must be too busy to give me the time of day lol

thanks for this thread

caius

Have you tried to burn the ISO and play the CD on your FM-TOWNS?

Opethian

I don't have a mouse or keybd to start the game. Can the alltynex.exp be auto launched somehow?

caius

Quote from: Opethian on July 12, 2014, 11:41:47 am
I don't have a mouse or keybd to start the game. Can the alltynex.exp be auto launched somehow?


I presume you tried the HDD version which requires a mouse since you have to launch the alltynex.exp unde the O.S. .But you have to try the CD which is selfbooting (like all other FM-TOWNS CD games)

SuperDeadite

I was never able to get Anna's homemade CD version to boot on my real systems.  Though the game runs fine off my HDD.

AnnaWu

July 15, 2014, 04:09:42 am #13 Last Edit: July 15, 2014, 04:42:13 am by AnnaWu
My created CD image was tested on MESS/UNZ only.
And no, I haven't the original hardware.
The FMT is a very small part of my interests about computers and consoles.
If I have for each emulated system (MESS et cetera) the hardware, I must be a millionaire.

The original file is a self-extracting archive (alltynex.exe).
You need enough space so a hard disk or CD installation is required.
http://tinyurl.com/lpj5wme

RetroRepair

Do you still have the IPL tools Anna? Every link is now dead.

AnnaWu

October 08, 2014, 10:57:23 am #15 Last Edit: October 08, 2014, 11:05:31 am by AnnaWu
Quote from: RetroRepair on October 07, 2014, 09:35:26 pm
Do you still have the IPL tools Anna? Every link is now dead.


tinyurl.com/p4q5kes

RetroRepair


RetroRepair

QuoteHere a short description how I made a bootable CD-ROM image (Towns System Software V2.1 L51) by using the files from the Harddisk image.

1.) Files/Folders from the Harddisk image extracted.
2.) Drive letter in different files (AUTOEXEC.BAT/DOS.BAT/TMENU.BAT D: > Q: /depent of your settings for MSCDEX) fitted.
3.) ImgBurn > Create image file from files/folders
4.) Following files on ImgBurn placed (the sequence is important!):

IO.SYS
CONFIG.SYS
AUTOEXEC.BAT
RUN386.EXE
TBIOS.BIN
TBIOS.SYS

and all the other files/folders (the order is now no more important).

5.) CD-ROM image (Alltynex.iso) created.
6.) CUE file for the Alltynex.iso created.
7.) For FM-Towns you need the IPL tools (IPL.BIN/IPL.COM) to make the CD bootable.
Command line: IPL IPL.BIN Alltynex.iso
The new CD-ROM image is now bootable.
8.) chdman createcd -i Alltynex.cue -o Alltynex.chd


Ok I tried your guide as on the MESS forum but I still can't get Rainbow Islands to boot  :'(

I placed all the files as you described in imgburn except TBIOS.BIN (as it doesn't exist) however VINGBIOS.BIN does and I've tried adding that before and after TBIOS.SYS but both times after I patch with IPL, when I put it in my Towns II the loading clock comes up and it reads for a moment then stops and nothing else happens  :'(

Any ideas?

This is the list of files on the disc:


03/31/1992  09:13 AM            41,140 CONTROL.EXE
03/31/1992  09:13 AM             1,000 DICUTY.COM
10/08/2014  11:24 AM    <DIR>          DOC
03/31/1992  09:13 AM             1,957 DOG.COM
03/31/1992  09:13 AM           131,072 DRIVE_R.IMG
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            77,824 IO.SYS
03/31/1992  09:13 AM             6,144 OAK2USR.DIC
03/31/1992  09:13 AM               751 POFF.COM
03/31/1992  09:13 AM               666 RESET.EXE
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            27,464 RISP01.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            29,273 RISP02.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            24,288 RISP03.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            18,734 RISP04.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            25,742 RISP05.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            28,970 RISP06.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            26,710 RISP07.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            23,699 RISP08.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            26,137 RISP09.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            28,375 RISP10.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            20,466 RISP11.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            29,302 RISP12.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            26,624 RISP13.DAT
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            71,376 RUN386.EXE
03/31/1992  09:13 AM               387 TBIOS.SYS
03/31/1992  09:13 AM           244,391 TMENU.EXP
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            32,768 TMENU.ICN
03/31/1992  09:13 AM               507 TMENU.IF2
03/31/1992  09:13 AM             1,664 TMENU.INF
10/08/2014  11:24 AM    <DIR>          TOOLS
03/31/1992  09:13 AM           113,872 T_OAK2.EXE
03/31/1992  09:13 AM            81,920 VINGBIOS.BIN
              29 File(s)      1,143,223 bytes


I did this as I don't think the CCD can be patched by IPL and though I tried making a new image imgburn refused to make an iso because of the audio tracks.

AnnaWu

October 09, 2014, 09:27:22 am #18 Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 09:34:23 am by AnnaWu
As I said earlier, I doesn't have the original hardware for an double check.
Try the Frog Feast.iso (tested on UNZ/MESS).
If the CD is booting then use the TBIOS (TBIOS.BIN/TBIOS.SYS) files.
If the CD is not booting I can't help (see above).

PS: Did you tried your created CD as CD image on UNZ/MESS?

RetroRepair

Thanks anyway, the Frog Feast ISO works but the TBIOS.SYS and .BIN from that don't make a difference with Rainbow Islands.

I have no idea now.

RetroRepair

Does exactly the same thing in Unz. The Alltynex disc linked above works on the real machine also.

Guess I'm doing something wrong somehow.  :-\

AnnaWu

October 09, 2014, 06:19:15 pm #21 Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 08:37:22 pm by AnnaWu
1.) That means my created Alltynex CD image is working on your real machine?
2.) Your created Rainbow Island CD image doesn't work, neither on the emulator nor with the real machine?
3.) At moment  I'm very busy with other things but you can upload your created CD image.

PS: Why do you want create a new Rainbow Island CD image? A Rainbow Island (Extra Version) CD image (.BIN, .CUE, Multisession with audio tracks) for FMT exist already. Maybe it is different to the normal version.

PS2: It seems, IPL support the ISO image file format only. The ISO image file format doesn't support the CDDA (or multiple tracks either).
The main program "RI.EXP" seems to missing in your CD image content.

RetroRepair

Quote from: AnnaWu on October 09, 2014, 06:19:15 pm
1.) That means my created Alltynex CD image is working on your real machine?

That's right.

Quote from: AnnaWu on October 09, 2014, 06:19:15 pm
2.) Your created Rainbow Island CD image doesn't work, neither on the emulator nor with the real machine?

Nope, same problem on both emulator and real hardware.

Quote from: AnnaWu on October 09, 2014, 06:19:15 pm
3.) At moment  I'm very busy with other things but you can upload your created CD image.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9gsi1y

Quote from: AnnaWu on October 09, 2014, 06:19:15 pm
PS: Why do you want create a new Rainbow Island CD image? A Rainbow Island (Extra Version) CD image (.BIN, .CUE, Multisession with audio tracks) for FMT exist already. Maybe it is different to the normal version.

Every version I have found is the CCD image which requires a substituted IPL to boot in emulators (and doesn't boot on real hardware). Bad dump apparently. I've not found a bin/cue version anywhere.

Quote from: AnnaWu on October 09, 2014, 06:19:15 pm
PS2: It seems, IPL support the ISO image file format only. The ISO image file format doesn't support the CDDA (or multiple tracks either).
The main program "RI.EXP" seems to missing in your CD image content.

Yes looking at the archived website for the tool, it seems to say that. It won't touch anything but.

I did notice RI.EXP was missing from the list I posted and apparently it's missing from the disc too! Windows decided that and a a few other vital files were system files and imgburn needed to be told to burn them anyway. It now boots but goes to Towns OS and loading the executable from there doesn't work. One step forward..

AnnaWu

October 09, 2014, 10:31:16 pm #23 Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 10:52:23 pm by AnnaWu
QuoteI did notice RI.EXP was missing from the list I posted and apparently it's missing from the disc too! Windows decided that and a a few other vital files were system files and imgburn needed to be told to burn them anyway. It now boots but goes to Towns OS and loading the executable from there doesn't work. One step forward..


Maybe the "RI.EXP" have the read-only attribute so it was missing in your ImgBurn basket and/or was not taken?
However, I will try to upload my CD Image on the nfgames server.



RetroRepair

That works great  8)

Thanks Anna, would be interested why I couldn't get mine working, might have to investigate  ;D

whisper2053

Sorry to necro the thread, but I was wondering which build of this I should get for the self booting CD on real hardware. I downloaded one earlier that I thought was self booting, but it just loads up to the TownsOS. I don't have a mouse yet, so the best I can manage right now is looking at the window with the executable. Its taunting me lol.


SePh1r0tH

Thank you Caius appreciate it!