Console to Arcade Monitor , doesnt have that vibrant color look and brightness

Started by s8n, July 28, 2008, 02:01:14 PM

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s8n

hiya scene , Viletim , Lawrence and Mr-Megalo

im having a slight problem with the Console to Jamma Converter ive built , the pic looks great but doesnt have that vibrant color look and brightness.

this is exactly what its like...........






im running a Gamecube , Dreamcast , PS2 RGB cable to the Arcade Monitor with a LM1881N for the Composite Sync nothing is on the RGB lines its straight to the Arcade Monitor Chassis.


One interesting fact is that Gamecube , Dreamcast , PS2 in that order have varing Color and Brightness.


should i attempt the NTSC Nintendo 64 RGB Booster ?

http://mmmonkey.co.uk/console/nintendo/ntsc-n64-rbg-booster1.htm

is there anything else i can try RGB booster , RGB amplifier etc ?


any info helps

s8n



NFG

Your pics don't show up, mmmonkey is blocking hotlinked requests, by the look of it.

viletim

A video video amplifier will increase the contrast of the picture and  a video clamper circuit will stop the brightness/colour changing with the picture content.

I once designed a circuit exactly for this purpose.http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/vga2arc/vga2arc.htm#acvid

s8n

howdy Loz and Viletim , new pics tell me your thoughts...........







http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/vga2arc/vga2arc.htm#acvid

is that your Website Viletim ? its phenomenal i use it often its quite handy

ive looked at that Circuit before and its quite clever , i can build that but may look into getting a online Prototype PCB place to assemble and build it. It would be my first attempt at getting a Builder and Assembler to make a PCB.

http://www.screamingcircuits.com/

i might try the NTSC Nintendo 64 RGB Booster first its a simple PCB i can knock up in about 1hr , few parts to order and solder.


s8n

viletim

Quote from: s8n on July 29, 2008, 12:55:56 PM

http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/vga2arc/vga2arc.htm#acvid

is that your Website Viletim ? its phenomenal i use it often its quite handy
Thanks!

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i might try the NTSC Nintendo 64 RGB Booster first its a simple PCB i can knock up in about 1hr , few parts to order and solder.
You could do that, but it'd be a waste of an hour. You need a voltage amplifier, not a current amplifier.

s8n

roger that Viletim , im heavily looking into getting a PCB prototype to be built online.  I have the app PCB Artist and am teaching myself to use it. 

thanx for all tips matey youve been phenomenal , btw are you from Australia ? i am i thought you were aswell due to your site being optusnet.com.au


s8n


viletim

Quote from: s8n on July 30, 2008, 09:54:59 PM
roger that Viletim , im heavily looking into getting a PCB prototype to be built online.  I have the app PCB Artist and am teaching myself to use it. 
You don't need to make a PCB. You could built it on some cheap prototype board.

BTW, I recommend leaving out IC3 and related components unless you really seperate horizontal and vertical sync.

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thanx for all tips matey youve been phenomenal , btw are you from Australia ? i am i thought you were aswell due to your site being optusnet.com.au
No problem, and yeah, I'm in Sydney.

s8n

your right yeah , ive built the LM1881N circuit about 4 times and have about 1/3 of the parts needed for the Video Amplifier. But by the time i order more parts pay shipping it will probably work out about 100 AU more , i think thats great plus if i can get it working id like to release the Schematic or final .PCB file on Killercabs to help the guys out there. 

roger that on IC3 and related components , thanx for that tip matey........na i just need LM1881N generated Composite Sync Out

ill prolly be up till early morning on the weekend learning PCB Artist , i dont want to waste another second im hanging to play Dreamcast or PS2 or GC on the Cab with proper colors and brightness/contrast. GC and DC are not too bad with my hand built Console Jamma Converter but PS2 could be much better (colors and brightness/contrast)


s8n

viletim

Quote from: s8n on July 31, 2008, 02:07:57 PM
your right yeah , ive built the LM1881N circuit about 4 times and have about 1/3 of the parts needed for the Video Amplifier. But by the time i order more parts pay shipping it will probably work out about 100 AU more , i think thats great plus if i can get it working id like to release the Schematic or final .PCB file on Killercabs to help the guys out there. 

$100 or more??? Parts should cost far less than that, even if you buy them all from Farnell.

As for a PCB layout - I've already designed one. It's available for download on the page in both Protel (australian defacto standard) format and printable PNG image format.

s8n

bonjour Viletim , i have checked out your PCB Layout and other bits at the bottom of the page and the more i check them out and learn PCB Artist the more i realize how brilliant your designs are. If its ok im thinking of sending your .PCB Protel file into a PCB Manufacturer , but unsure if the non removal of the IC3 to seperate horizontal and vertical sync will mess up things ........ie i dont need to seperate the syncs all i need is the generated Composite Sync from the LM1881N , i will then connect that (generated sync) to the Video Sync on the Arcade Machine.

buzz me Vile

s8n


RGB32E

Or you could make some BNC adapters and use something like this:
http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=pa250&search=pa%20250

I have one of these and they work wonders!  You can double RGB Vp-p from your consoles and have a better CSYNC or H/V Sync output to your arcade monitor.  There's also a "peaking" adjustment to sharpen the picture.

I had to run the RGBS output from a Street Figher: The Movie arcade board through one of these to get a stable sync on my PVM-2030 (image was wonky/rolling without it).