SNES/SFC Controller PAL-compatibility resistor-values (and locations?)

[Pepper]

Hi,

That again?!
I know..

But!
I haven't found anything about this specific "problem".

I built clumsily threw together an adapter to use Neo Geo (well, something similiar to the Super NEO GEO Controller Pinout) on an SNES/SFC a few days ago, and today i wanted to make it compatible with my PAL SNES. When i opened up two third party controllers, which are PAL-compatible, i found they didn't use a 1.2kΩ and a 3kΩ resistor, but two 1kΩ (brown, black, red, gold) resistors connecting P/S (Latch) and Clock to Vcc +5Volt, if i remember correctly.
I adapted my adapter ( ) the same way and it works.

So my questions are:

• Is this safe? I'm not gonna kill my SNES or SFC with this, right? (I don't really know much about physics/electronics..)
• Why does it work both ways? (It's different from the Nintendo-way, or isn't it?)
• Do the resistors in official Nintendo controllers connect the same parts, just with different Ω values? (I'm not sure from the images at http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=controls:snes_con_region_fix)

Thank you!

edit: Thanks to micro! I meant 1 kilo Ω, not just 1 Ω.

[micro]

Using 1 Ohm as pullup resistor is not safe by any means. But I guess (or hope) you got the color rings wrong. Brown-black-red-gold should result in an 1 kOhm resistor.

If I were you I'd use a 10 kOhm resistor, that's just the most common value for a normal pullup resistor. If the resistor is lower then the line gets pulled up faster, but there's also more current through the resistor. Lower resistor -> pull-up slower but also lower current & power consumption.

[Pepper]

What i got wrong was the Ω-value in my first post. Phew!

I used 10 kΩ as pullups for the buttons, like in the wiki.
The resistors i found in the third-party controllers, and those i used myself are 1 kΩ (brown, black, red, gold), the missing k was an unfortunate typo.

So do i just need some kind of pullup for a PAL SNES to talk to my controller? The exact value doesn't seem to matter much?
So i guess i'm on the safe (if not very power-efficient?) side with 1 kilo Ω.

[micro]

Just a typo, good

1 kOhm pullup resistors probably won't damage your SNES but I'd still use 10 kOhm resistors instead.

[Pepper]

I might replace them.. some day 

Would you also recommend replacing the resistors inside the third-party controllers?

[micro]

Hmm, I guess I wouldn't replace them, but if I'm about to make new circuit be myself I'd definitely use the 10 kOhm resistors.