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Title: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: blackevilweredragon on June 19, 2007, 08:02:41 PM
I don't have a laser active, but for it's optical out, this is what I'm wondering about.


The YM2612 has an internal FM DAC (to produce it's FM sounds on speakers), where, say, on an Adlib card, the YM3812 needs an external DAC.

Perhaps the YM2612 on the 315 chip has direct access to the pre-DAC digital audio, and those Pioneer chips re-sample/encode it into something optical audio can use?

I wish we had schematics to the laser actives 315 chip, i'd like to see if the audio does come out with the 2612's pre-dac data.  That could mean an even better mod for the Genesis 2 sound..
Title: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: RobIvy64 on June 19, 2007, 09:27:01 PM
Heh, no point in discussing it really.

SSF will disagree with me and the thread will get locked.
Title: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: blackevilweredragon on June 20, 2007, 04:13:54 AM
nah, we should be able to discuss it without getting the thread locked, as long as it stays on the debate of the 2612...
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: timofonic on March 01, 2008, 09:39:02 PM
Sorry for bumping another old post. What about this? I did read LaserActive converts from analog audio to digital.
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: Leynos on September 20, 2009, 11:37:11 AM
Hi timofonic,

You are correct.  There was some uncertainty some time ago as to whether or not this is the case, but I think it has long since been resolved.

My Laseractive seems to have a broken ADC, so whilst I get digital output from the redbook audio in CD games, none of the chip sounds are output.

Regards,

Leynos
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: Shou on April 17, 2010, 12:07:40 PM
Has it been confirmed that LA games, MD and PCE games running on the Packs actually output optical audio? I only have tested the NEC unit but I get no sound on Vajra, nothing from HUcard titles and only redbook from CD games which makes sense.
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: l_oliveira on April 17, 2010, 02:09:35 PM
Two names for the same thing:

SPDIF:  Electrical specifications and encapsulation protocol for audio transfers on home theater setups. Uses an serial electric line. Usual setup is either non buffered 5v/3v level TTL signals or high power for transfer between units (orange coax cable)

TOSLINK:  Optical interface which uses an optical fiber cable to transfer the data. Electrical isolation is achieved with this method. Uses the same encapsulation protocol as SPDIF.


The Laser Active probably uses TTL level SPDIF signal for the chips audio. There's an high pin count Pioneer LSI in each pack module. It's possible that the said LSI has the ADC internally. Once the SPDIF signal is encoded, if the single wire communication line is interrupted, no sound will be heard regardless how many analog outputs are multiplexed in it.
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: NFG on April 17, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
I think you misunderstand the question, l_oliveira.  Either that or I misunderstood your answer.  ;)

He's asking if game sounds are heard on the optical output, or just CD digital audio.
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: l_oliveira on April 20, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on April 17, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
I think you misunderstand the question, l_oliveira. 

I suppose that's the case ... lol
Anyway I'd love to have the chance to lay my grubby fingers on a LaserActive unit... Yes, Yes ... Hahaha :)
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: NFG on April 20, 2010, 01:42:14 PM
I should really drag mine out of the box it's in.  ^_^
Title: Re: LaserActive YM2612 Sound
Post by: Tiido Priimägi on April 28, 2010, 09:04:21 AM
That would be lovely :D