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NFG Forums => RGB + Video Discussions => Topic started by: Moosmann on October 18, 2004, 03:03:06 AM

Title: RGB quality black japanese PCE Duo
Post by: Moosmann on October 18, 2004, 03:03:06 AM
Today, I modified 2 PCE for RGB, all with the same amplifier.
The quality from the small white PCE is great, but on a black japanese Duo (CD-Rom & HU in one) i get a very bad quality (shadows on right side).

I have this bad quality with each amplifier in all resistors/condensator combinations, or just the transistor the same result.

http://markus.brandel.bei.t-online.de/DUO-rgbscreenshot1.JPG (http://markus.brandel.bei.t-online.de/DUO-rgbscreenshot1.JPG)
http://markus.brandel.bei.t-online.de/DUO-rgbscreenshot2.JPG (http://markus.brandel.bei.t-online.de/DUO-rgbscreenshot2.JPG)

Particularly the color white looks worst.

Do have every black DUOs bad rgb ?

Bye Markus
Title: RGB quality black japanese PCE Duo
Post by: davidleeroth on October 27, 2004, 07:49:13 PM
I have similar problem with a N64 RGB mod. It worked with the old amp but using the new PC-E amp (transistor BC33725) brought the problems.  
Title: RGB quality black japanese PCE Duo
Post by: Moosmann on October 28, 2004, 01:56:35 AM
Which transistor do you have in the old amp ? And which circuit (resistors, condensator) ?

I never had a problem with a BC33725 in a US N64.

Bye Markus
Title: RGB quality black japanese PCE Duo
Post by: davidleeroth on October 28, 2004, 06:50:09 AM
I used the "old and crappy" PC-E amp:

(http://www.gamesx.com/grafx/necrgbamp.gif)

I took composite/RGB comparison photos of N64 when I made the old amp, take a look (http://www.students.tut.fi/~tiainen2/rgb.html). I understand that the old amp wasn't good but the results were IMO. I just wanted to know if the picture could get even better.

Title: RGB quality black japanese PCE Duo
Post by: NFG on October 28, 2004, 04:41:46 PM
From what I've been told the amp shown above is a crappy amp that delivers good results for this purpose.  I've never built it and have no opinion.