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Title: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: zmiize on May 06, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Hello, Im new in the forums and I was wondering why doesn't the gamecube output component video through the original analogue port like in the older consoles like the snes and 64? And is it possible to get rgb out of it instead? It really bothers me that nintendo couldn't include rgb or another type of output that doesn't distort the picture as much as composite or s-video. The component cable for the gamecube is really expensive, it is ridiculously pricey and scarce. Although if someone has one to offer for a much cheaper price, let me know ;)
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: NFG on May 06, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
You're massively confused, neither the SNES nor N64 output Component video through the AV port.  In fact, the PS2 was the first console -ever- to output component video.  Component video became the standard on consumer TVs, so there was no point supporting RGB.

You can easily get RGB from a GameCube, but it does require one of those expensive component cables:  http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:gamecube_rgb (http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:gamecube_rgb)

For my money, s-video is very very good, and if you're not getting good results with it I'd blame your TV.  I once worked weeks to get RGB from a system (back in the day when none of this info was on the net (which is why I started gamesx.com)) only to find the RGB monitor I had didn't look half as good as my cheap JVC TV using s-video.

If you want cheap component cables, get a time machine.  I bought stacks of them for two hundred yen when the GameCube was still fresh in Japan.  Sorry.  ^_^
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: zmiize on May 08, 2014, 10:17:54 AM
Well that is dissapointing :/ the thing is I was hoping to use my gamecube on an lcd/led tv (which to me is much more convenient than a crt tv) but lcd/led tv don't have s-video now a days, my other option would be to use an upscaler with s-video input, but there are pretty scarce and expensive where I live (South America) so I guess I'll just have to make up with composite it really is a bummer :(
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: micro on May 09, 2014, 12:49:28 AM
Hmm, have you considered getting a PAL Gamecube? They're really cheap over here (10€ for the system) and they support RGB :D
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: Andy-Antsinpants on May 09, 2014, 02:16:22 AM
Older Wii consoles with GameCube support can display GC games via the more affordable Wii Component video cable. This goes for both PAL and NTSC Wii.
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: zmiize on May 11, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Does a modded pal gamecube play ntsc games in rgb? that could be an option if it does.
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: micro on May 11, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
Yes, it does!  :D

The nice thing is that the developer of the XenoGC modchip has released the source files. You can programm your own XenoGC for about 2€. It works absolutely flawlessly. (I've only tested original import games)
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: Andy-Antsinpants on May 12, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
Another option to play NTSC games on a PAL GameCube is using the Freeloader Disc. Tried on mine with Baten Kaitos 2, works fine.
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: zmiize on May 15, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Thanks I'll see if a can get my hands on a modded pal gamecube :)
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: phreak97 on June 02, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
I've been using my wii to play gamecube games via component video, if us prices are anything like they are here you can get a wii and a component cable for about $35. you can also softmod the wii to support progressive scan and wide screen modes for gamecube games (not 100% compatible though)
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: imparanoic on June 19, 2014, 12:16:06 PM
please note  pal gamecube games are 17.6% slower with massive black borders, not so nice.

best of both worlds, freeloader on pal gamecube, RGB on the cheap as well as playing full speed and full screen gaming, I use wii for gamecube games via component, it decent, but apparently slightly inferior to gamecube native component
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: phreak97 on June 19, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
There arent any black borders on pal gamecube games, they use the full 576 lines. and theyre speed fixed so theyre a few percent slower at most. Plus if you hold B while booting the game it will let you choose 60HZ mode which eliminates slowdown at the expense of the extra lines (480 lines).

Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: imparanoic on June 19, 2014, 03:30:56 PM
not all gamecube games in pal had 50htz/60htz option, even worse, even a few wii pal games don't have this option
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: phreak97 on June 19, 2014, 05:24:28 PM
I have heard that, but I have not found any decent games without that function so I wouldnt worry
Title: Re: Why does the gamecube only output component through the digital output?
Post by: imparanoic on June 19, 2014, 07:18:49 PM
at least on thing, we freeloader or modchip on pal gamecube, you can play Japanese exclusive decent games such in pure rgb with no expensive cable modifications ( component or d terminal) such as ikaruga and pc genjin/kid remake