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Title: [SMS2] Sega Master System II mod - no audio!
Post by: djlooka on March 18, 2012, 08:48:45 PM
Hi everyone,
I've been tinkering with an SMS II (integrated Alex Kidd) for a while:
I've read tons of howtos, guides, etc but I can't still make this work.

My aim is to have a SCART socket on the back of the console for A/V output.
This tutorial http://kaikoshumi.webs.com/mastersystemiimod.htm (http://kaikoshumi.webs.com/mastersystemiimod.htm)
seemed to fit my needs, I also had the same chips on the board, but was intended for a captive SCART cable, not for a socket.

This guy http://www.electronicspoint.com/adding-rgb-scart-sega-master-system-t241450.html (http://www.electronicspoint.com/adding-rgb-scart-sega-master-system-t241450.html)
wanted to perform the same mod I'm trying to do, but had a different motherboard revision (with different chips).

This is my setup so far:
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4905/smsrgb.jpg)

I can see a nice video (composite, since the C-video signal goes to pin 19), but have no sound.

Notice that the RGB switching and Audio pins are not wired:
- If I wired the RGB switching signal to the correspondent SCART pin
(I've read different stories on this one: pin 16; pin 16 and 8; directly to pin 8, then 180 Ohm to pin 16)
moving the C-video signal to pin 20, I should get RGB picture instead of Composite: tried them all, all lead to massively distorted picture.

- I can't get the audio signal from any known contact on the board!
(all these contacts have been tested with either a 10uF or without it)

This mod should have been extremely easy, but...

Now, I don't care if all I can get is Composite video; all I want is a decent audio!
My idea is: since there is audio output if I plug the ol' crappy RF, where can I get it?
Title: Re: [SMS2] Sega Master System II mod - no audio!
Post by: albino_vulpix on March 19, 2012, 05:48:20 PM
Have you tried wiring the audio and video outputs to an RCA and plugging that in? The simplest explanation I have is the input/outputs on the SCART socket have been wired up wrong.
Title: Re: [SMS2] Sega Master System II mod - no audio!
Post by: djlooka on March 20, 2012, 04:19:33 AM
> Have you tried wiring the audio and video outputs to an RCA and plugging that in?
Nope, since I have no spare RCA connectors :(
> The simplest explanation I have is the input/outputs on the SCART socket have been wired up wrong.
I've tried both 2 - 6 and 1 - 3 (which mean audio IN and OUT), without success.

The best workaround would be to get the audio signal directly from inside the Mitsumi RF converter, but I can't find any schematic...


P.S.: I just found out the only inputs of such RF converter are 3 pins. Tried every one, without success.
My guess now is that there's a sort of amplification which happens inside that converter and if I could get the correct pin inside it, I'd finally have some output...
Title: Re: [SMS2] Sega Master System II mod - no audio!
Post by: albino_vulpix on March 20, 2012, 06:54:23 PM
Have you checked the continuity in the scart cable itself? My SMSII has composite video and audio wired as in your diagram and works well.
Title: Re: [SMS2] Sega Master System II mod - no audio!
Post by: djlooka on March 24, 2012, 06:07:12 PM
After another session of "solder - connect - curse - desolder", I made an interesting discovery:
- tried different cables (thanks @albino_vulpix), same result -





Anyway, even if I wanted an RGB stereo mod, I guess I'm fine with composite and mono.

(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15036913/images/1306267731134.jpg)
Title: Re: [SMS2] Sega Master System II mod - no audio!
Post by: viletim on April 11, 2012, 10:25:49 PM
djlooka,

Take a look here:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stinkyfist/reviletim/smsfm/smsfm.html (http://members.iinet.net.au/~stinkyfist/reviletim/smsfm/smsfm.html)

While the page is intended to be brief instructions for installing the FM sound board, it may as well be subtitled "Where to find the audio signal on every model of Sega Master System". There is only one sound channel however. Perhaps you are thinking of the Sega Game Gear, which does feature stereo sound.