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Title: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 20, 2014, 02:20:43 PM
It would be so great if someone could help me compile a list of X68k games by required RAM to run them.  There's so little info out there on this!  I could only find this page:

http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~debiddo/mygames.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~debiddo/mygames.htm)

which was very helpful, to say the least.  Let's add to it!

I also have a system without a keyboard, which is nice if you just want to play games off the floppy.  BUT, some games require simple key option presses at boot, or so it seems.  Castlevania asks me something in Japanese at boot, so I can't play it :/  It would be nice to know which games do this (and which games have keyboard accessible only option screens.)  Also, which games boot at 15khz by default and stuff like that!  So far I learned Zugya boots at 15khz and Cotton's menus can be accessed by pressing left on the controller.

-Segasonicfan
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Opethian on July 22, 2014, 01:34:04 AM
all Capcom games boot 15khz
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: gabby32 on July 22, 2014, 02:34:56 AM
big detailed list but in Japanese

http://tkhr000.s601.xrea.com/x68softlist/x68soft.htm (http://tkhr000.s601.xrea.com/x68softlist/x68soft.htm)
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Opethian on July 22, 2014, 03:37:40 AM
if you don't have a castlevania user disk that's what it was looking for when booting Castlevania.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: sakaiza91 on July 22, 2014, 03:44:53 AM
Quote from: Opethian on July 22, 2014, 01:34:04 AM
all Capcom games boot 15khz
Super Street Fighter 2 seems to boot in 31kHZ, I've to change crt mode from 4 to 1 to get it to 15kHz. By the way, since I haven't any manual. Please could someone confirm that: 
   CRT MODE 1 : 15kHz narrow
   CRT MODE 2 : 15kHz wide
   CRT MODE 3 : 31kHz narrow
   CRT MODE 4 : 31kHz wide
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 22, 2014, 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: gabby32 on July 22, 2014, 02:34:56 AM
big detailed list but in Japanese

http://tkhr000.s601.xrea.com/x68softlist/x68soft.htm (http://tkhr000.s601.xrea.com/x68softlist/x68soft.htm)

THANK YOU!  This is perfect, it should be in the wiki :)
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 23, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Hatenkou looks like another that needs >2MB (I think?) since when I boot it up on my system it says "x68k PCM8A Polyphonic ADPCM drive 0.57" but never loads.  I reburned with no luck and it doesn't hang on a CRC so I think its a RAM issue.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: eidis on July 24, 2014, 05:11:39 AM
 Hi Segasonicfan !

FYI
Games1 = Can be launched from LHES on 2MB machines.
Games2 = 2Mb required. Must be launched from HumanOS.
Games3 = More than 2Mb required.

QuoteThis is perfect, it should be in the wiki :)

I am very glad that you decided to volunteer for the job. ;)

Please open the following link, scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on "login", enter your forum username and password.

http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php (http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php)

The following online translator engines will make the task a lot easier.

https://translate.google.com/ (https://translate.google.com/)
http://webtranslation.paralink.com/English-Japanese-Translation/ (http://webtranslation.paralink.com/English-Japanese-Translation/)

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 24, 2014, 05:42:18 AM
Quote from: eidis on July 24, 2014, 05:11:39 AM
Hi Segasonicfan !

FYI
Games1 = Can be launched from LHES on 2MB machines.
Games2 = 2Mb required. Must be launched from HumanOS.
Games3 = More than 2Mb required.

People keep telling me this, but where do I find Games1,2,3,etc?  Where is this list?

QuoteI am very glad that you decided to volunteer for the job. ;)

sure, I'd be glad to do it.

-Segasonicfan
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: eidis on July 24, 2014, 03:03:46 PM
 Hi Segasonicfan !

QuotePeople keep telling me this, but where do I find Games1,2,3,etc?  Where is this list?

http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/X68000V4.zip (http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/X68000V4.zip)

Boot from it and Look in the root directory ;)

http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/V4%20Patches/HDD_V4_SP1_frontend.zip (http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/V4%20Patches/HDD_V4_SP1_frontend.zip)

Or look in the HDD_V4.SP1

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 24, 2014, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: eidis on July 24, 2014, 03:03:46 PM
Hi Segasonicfan !

QuotePeople keep telling me this, but where do I find Games1,2,3,etc?  Where is this list?

http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/X68000V4.zip (http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/X68000V4.zip)

Boot from it and Look in the root directory ;)

http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/V4%20Patches/HDD_V4_SP1_frontend.zip (http://nfggames.com/x68000/Games/V4%20Patches/HDD_V4_SP1_frontend.zip)

Or look in the HDD_V4.SP1

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis

Thanks for the post eidis, helpful as always!

Though this directory is not correct in terms of RAM requirement running from FDD.  The Games3 directory has Cotton, Daimakaimura, and Strider which all run on 2MB RAM.  Others in there probably do too.  So I'm still trying to find out what needs more :/ It would be great to know especially if Hatenkou and Illumination Laser require more, because I really want to play them.

-Segasonicfan
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: 98pacecar on July 25, 2014, 04:40:56 AM
Pretty sure those games require more ram when booted from the HD.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Opethian on July 26, 2014, 12:18:15 AM
any game that uses 2hd boot will need 2MB (or what ever the requirement is) + 1.2MB/disk  to load each disk into RAM.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 26, 2014, 02:28:26 AM
Quote from: 98pacecar on July 25, 2014, 04:40:56 AM
Pretty sure those games require more ram when booted from the HD.

yep, maybe I should have been more clear.  I don't have an HD and I am trying to find out RAM requirements for Floppy games.  Specifically Hatenkou and Illumination Laser.

-Segasonicfan
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: eidis on July 26, 2014, 05:16:29 AM
Hi Segasonicfan !

Hatenkou, Illumination Laser, Super Street Fighter 2, Duel Fighter 2 and some rare 1% of X68000 game library require 4Mb RAM. It is safe to assume that almost any game will run from floppy on 2Mb machine. There is no need to reinvent the wheel ;)

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on July 29, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: eidis on July 26, 2014, 05:16:29 AM
Hi Segasonicfan !

Hatenkou, Illumination Laser, Super Street Fighter 2, Duel Fighter 2 and some rare 1% of X68000 game library require 4Mb RAM. It is safe to assume that almost any game will run from floppy on 2Mb machine. There is no need to reinvent the wheel ;)

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis

Thanks for this info!  This is what I was wanting to know.  I hear Mahou whatever- the Dimahoo prequel-  is also a >2MB game.  and I think Fatal Fury as well.

-Segasonicfan
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Opethian on July 29, 2014, 11:16:40 PM
Mahou Daisakusen can run on only 2 MB but RAM is the least of your worries on that game you need an 030 to even enjoy it.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: SuperDeadite on July 30, 2014, 12:16:26 AM
Eternal World requires 6mbs.  I can't imagine anyone really playing through it properly, but it is quite a nifty tech demo to see running on the real machine at least.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: Segasonicfan on August 13, 2014, 05:43:47 AM
Sadly, Neural Gear requires a keyboard.  I think Bomberman does too.  Apparently some puzzlers do too, since it is needed to restart the level when you mess up a puzzle (I think).  i.e. Flappy 2
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: eidis on August 13, 2014, 06:05:08 AM
Hi Segasonicfan !

QuoteSadly, Neural Gear requires a keyboard.

Even worse. It requires a mouse ;)

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: SuperDeadite on August 13, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
Neural Gear sucks with a mouse though.  Cyberstick is pretty much required to really enjoy it.
Title: Re: Games with >2MB RAM? Games that need Keyboard?
Post by: eidis on October 08, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
 Hi Segasonicfan !

Any news regarding the article ?

Keep the scene alive !
Eidis